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Offline upstatenybowyer

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70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« on: October 20, 2017, 03:38:36 pm »
This bow is definitely at my limit for poundage. I can only shoot it for about 3 rounds of 12 arrows until I need a break.  )F(

Anyway, It's Black Locust, about 70/30 sapwood to heartwood ratio. I'm sure it would perform better if were all heartwood, but I'm happy with the way it draws, shoots and feels in the hand.

It has a slight natural deflex with about .5" of set. The hooks were steamed in, gone over with a heat gun, and reinforced with osage underlays. The overlays are osage as well.

It has a thin piece of yew on the handle, which I added cause it was bending a bit too much in the handle.

64.5" ttt, running parallel at 1.25" to mid-limb, then tapering down to 3/8" at the tips.
Sheepshead skin accents
thread-wrapped with bow string material
rawhide wrapped at the handle
70# at 27"
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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2017, 03:39:18 pm »
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"Even as the archer loves the arrow that flies, so too he loves the bow that remains constant in his hands."

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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2017, 03:40:04 pm »
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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2017, 03:49:01 pm »
Sweet! I always heard you had to ditch the sapwood. Then one wise man pointed out the further down you go in the sapwood the more like heartwood it becomes, as it has already started to change. That got me started on the small locust staves I had and they turned out fine, sapwood and all. I would say you have made a efficient bow here. Making the most of what you are working with

Offline Mo_coon-catcher

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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2017, 04:03:04 pm »
I like it! That's some good weight out of that width for black locust.
I'm hoping to make a black locust static at the weight for myself in the near future. What sort of performance are you getting out of it?

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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2017, 04:30:16 pm »
Very nice, I like the idea with the power lam stiffener !
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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2017, 04:50:13 pm »
Very nice looking bow

Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2017, 06:24:43 pm »
Thanks gents. Yeah Chuck, I read that same thing about the deeper sapwood. I actually made a bow from the heartwood beneath this stave. I was originally gonna cut up the wood this bow is made from for kindling, but I saw a bow in it so I gave it a shot.

Mo, I wish I had a Chrony. I have been pretty good this year, so maybe Santa will find it in his big jolly heart to leave me one under the tree.  O:)  It definitely hits hard and I can't feel any hand shock.
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Offline Greenriverwoodcraft

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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2017, 07:31:49 pm »
that bow is sweet!!!  How do you get a perfect fit on the static overlays?

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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2017, 02:01:10 am »
Nice work, Jeff. Your tiller looks very good.

Well, what I've learned about statics:
> there shold be a string lift off at about the last 10" of draw to get the advantage of a lever (otherwise only addy mass)
> so make the bow as short as possible
> lever angle of about 60° is a good idea, more prevents lift off
> excessive length of levers makes no sense (thanks Marc, I watched your bows and learned a lot)

this are my thoughts about selfbows, not hornbows!
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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2017, 02:20:20 am »
Cool bow, I was going to say I'd like to see it drawn another few inches to get the string lifting off the levers but Simson beat me to it :)
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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2017, 07:07:00 am »
Nice bow Jeff.
I agree with simson about the angle and length of static tips.A good 40 to 50 degrees is usually enough to do the job.
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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2017, 07:28:10 am »
Thank you guys very much for your insight! This is why I post bows... to learn.

Simson, I totally get it. I can see from the FD pic the string is not lifting off those hooks. Think if I shorten them up a bit it will make a difference?
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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2017, 07:40:39 am »
Cool bow, Upstate.   :OK
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Re: 70# BL Static w/ Natural Deflex
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2017, 08:32:34 am »
Very Nice! Loving the accents.
I have thought about doing a handle reinforcement like that on a bendy. How's it holding up and how did you glue it on? did you have to go completely flat and remove even more of the belly to get a good glue line?
Completely agree on the learning. I been at it 5 years or so and feel like a novice still.
Just might learn another tip right here.