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Offline JNystrom

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Osage warbow 140# @31"
« on: September 29, 2018, 02:06:08 pm »
Here is a osage from Hungary, made into a bow in Helgoya Norway, shot in Wales, pictured in Finland!

73" long, self nocks and under 1" of set. Weights about 38 oz/ 1090g. I'm sorry dimensions i can only say in european language, 30x30mm at handle.
Sapwood still intact in the back. I'll attach a video of Jeremy Spencer shooting it some 220 yards with military arrow.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtQXKEjyDYE
« Last Edit: September 29, 2018, 02:13:31 pm by JNystrom »

Offline Pat B

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2018, 04:43:15 pm »
Very nice. What's your opinion of osage for a war bow?  Looks like you left quite a bit of sapwood on the staves. I've found the sapwood on osage works well and it looks great, especially as the osage changes color.
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

Offline JNystrom

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2018, 12:25:52 am »
Thanks! Well obviously its really good for a warbow, only thing you need to care is never make a light longbow out of it. For example even this bow feels a bit heavy in mass and understressed. Obviously i didnt have room to make the bow narrower, since it was 30x30 already at handle. Maybe you should make shorter osage warbows? 68-70" for 30" draw?

Yes, i left 1/5" /5mm sapwood on the back. I just wanted all the poundage i could get.

Hope it will live a long life, i like the color change of osage too, especially now with the creamy sap.

Offline Pat B

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2018, 10:38:25 am »
IMO, osage sapwood is very strong. I have used it in quite a few bows of different styles, I even made an ELB a few years back that I left a ring or 2 of sapwood on the back. It was 68" or slightly longer and drew about 55#@28". It did have a bit of hand shock but not much and shot very well.
Make the most of all that comes and the least of all that goes!    Pat Brennan  Brevard, NC

Offline FilipT

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2018, 01:24:02 pm »
Looks amazing but why is it so narrow when compared to thickness?

Offline Ryan Jacob

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2018, 04:48:30 pm »
It saves mass since osage has a high density.

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2018, 01:49:58 am »
Great looking bow :)
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Offline JNystrom

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2018, 07:52:44 am »
Thanks everyone. 2 rings of sapwood sounds nice too, Pat. I think this has couple more - about 4?
FilipT, i think its still too wide! You could make a elm bow in the same weight with a mass of 4 oz (100g) less.

Offline meanewood

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #8 on: October 01, 2018, 05:16:46 pm »
Nice bow, what's the story with Osage growing in Hungary, was it imported from the US at some stage?

Offline JNystrom

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #9 on: October 02, 2018, 01:00:57 am »
I don't know about the real origin, we just last summer ordered a bunch of osage from there. It seems like good stuff, some are really heavy, oily and have these black stripes.

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2018, 02:41:10 pm »
 That's a very nice bow  8).

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Offline FilipT

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2018, 11:38:39 am »
Osage orange grows in the Carpathian basin and in the USA. Austro Hungarian empire imported it in the 19th century and in territories that were under AH Empire, Osage is found mostly in botanical gardens. In Hungary it grows by itself but for example in Balkans Osage was sometimes used as poles for fence around military bases, which they of course imported from Hungary. I found only osage in my town. It is in yard of middle school that deals with forestry and I never found time to pick some of its fruit in order to plant seeds around the house.

Offline Badger

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2018, 11:16:08 am »
   Slightly heavy in mass but I think very well designed. The low amount of set trumps and slight extra mass easily. Good job.

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2018, 11:33:43 am »
Thanks guys.
I actually will touch up the tiller a little bit, right limb is a bit too stiff. The slight deflex is natural on the right limb. And one thing i should start doing is keeping my bows in a regular place in the tiller tree. My previous method has been - just adjust the bow in the tiller so it bends nicely and then when you shoot you will find which limb is top, which is bottom. So i don't care where is the nocking point. Maybe i should...

Offline Mounter

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Re: Osage warbow 140# @31"
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2018, 10:33:22 pm »
Love it with thesapwood! I got 3 or 4 staves that will be this someday... less wieght tho, hunting weight. Thanks for sharing.