Author Topic: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26" ?165fps??  (Read 8352 times)

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Offline Halfbow

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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #15 on: August 24, 2019, 03:52:13 pm »
Great work with the fit of those belly laminations! I know how much of a pain that can be. How does it shoot compared to before the yew?

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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #16 on: August 24, 2019, 04:24:03 pm »
Nice bow sir! Thank you for taking the time to photograph and share........

Offline Woodely

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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #17 on: August 24, 2019, 05:48:53 pm »
Nice work,  never seen lams done that way, hopefully it will hold together lots of stress in that area. 
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Offline backtowood B2W

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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #18 on: August 25, 2019, 02:19:22 am »
Great work with the fit of those belly laminations! I know how much of a pain that can be. How does it shoot compared to before the yew?
I have the draw chart before lams. Doesn't seem to be true as I cannot believe the drop in the last 2". Also the 4# in the beginning won't be correct.
The bow was shooting very poorly had 2" of stringfollow, also the tiller was horrible. Now,as I said this is my next time shooter and not going into COS again.
10" - 4# +4
12" - 8# +3
14" - 11# +4
16" - 15# +3
18" - 18# +3
20" - 21# +3
22" - 25# +4
24" - 28# +4
26" - 32# +3
28" - 35#

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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #19 on: August 25, 2019, 02:22:19 am »
Thank you, guys glad you like it!
No concerns???
Can't believe, this is my first.....don't hesitate to criticize!
Thanks
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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #20 on: August 25, 2019, 04:22:55 am »
 B2W,
         Wonderful wood working skills and beautiful bow...Nice bend and balance...You made an excellent comeback on that bow...

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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #21 on: August 25, 2019, 08:58:40 am »
Great upgrade! Like the bend! Your patience and passion for detail once again is adorable.  (-S 
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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #22 on: August 25, 2019, 02:44:31 pm »
Nice work sir.  Very nice!
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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #23 on: August 25, 2019, 03:36:27 pm »
it looks great!
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Offline Woodely

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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #24 on: August 25, 2019, 07:38:25 pm »
Thank you, guys glad you like it!
No concerns???
Can't believe, this is my first.....don't hesitate to criticize!
Thanks
BTW

As I stated in my previous post ……  "never seen lams done that way, hopefully it will hold together lots of stress in that area "
"Doing bad work is an exercise in futility, but honestly making mistakes is trying your best."

Offline backtowood B2W

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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #25 on: August 26, 2019, 12:37:04 am »
Nice work,  never seen lams done that way, hopefully it will hold together lots of stress in that area. 
Lams glued up above the fades I've seen on fg bows.
My first glue up failed exactly there. The step in the fade was just about 2 mm, also I used my not so good Epoxy( though it will do its job with a bigger surface than just tip overlay size).
My second attempt I left the yew lam the whole thickness in the fade - so the step became much bigger and the curve much lower.
The step is angled so the lam won't lift.
The lams are entering at the same growrhring so forces will work towards on the same layer.
I used the best glue this time!!!
When I glued up I pushed the lams towards the handle, so there should be wood on wood with very little glue in between.
And at last I made this glued in bamboo dowels.
I think key is to have zero movement in the glue line in the fades, as soon it starts moving there it's over and it starts to delay.
I have glued together so many things in school, job, and at home, so my experience and guts tells me this will stay together forever.
I've it won't I will update
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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #26 on: August 26, 2019, 12:38:36 am »
Thank you guys I appreciate your replies
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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #27 on: August 26, 2019, 02:11:01 am »
Some great experimenting and perseverance and skill.
That what I love to see.
Del
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Offline backtowood B2W

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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2019, 09:48:25 am »
Thanks Del! (Btw, in 50 years I will think different about your lately elder artwork  ;D >:D)

Got some more numbers about the bow:

Mass dropped from 474g to 419g.

Made her a proper string (8 strand FF) and crono today with 10 gr per # arrow.
Got a range from 164 to 167 fps with 26" draw.

I'm not so familiar with crono results ( doing more the draw/weight chart thing), so do you think my conclusion was right; " being pretty fast,     but not a speed devil" ???

Thank you for checking out for me,
Maybe you can give me a formula for valuing performance via fps.

Offline DC

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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26" ?165fps??
« Reply #29 on: August 30, 2019, 10:14:58 am »
I believe that unless you are using a shooting machine and the chrono you won't know for sure. For me (cause I'm such a lousy archer) the machine found another 10-15(approx)fps. Poor release and not actually pulling to the DL you think you are will cause your speed to be down. The nice thing is that you can be pretty sure that you bow is actually as fast or faster than your manual test. There are a few guys that can beat a machine but not many. When I use my machine I can get maybe 10 shots that are exactly the same speed. If it does change it's by 1 fps. That gives me a lot of confidence in the accuracy.
I think 165@26" is pretty good. Another 2" of draw and you will be knocking on the "Speed Devils" door.