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Offline apg

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Nail in stave
« on: August 11, 2019, 04:29:49 pm »
Received a gorgeous piece of Osage, and once I found my ring, I also found this nail which runs deep it would seem.

Is there any way to work a bow with A nail in it like this? It’s smack bang in the middle of the working section of the limb and there’s not enough wood on either side to work around it.

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Offline bradsmith2010

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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2019, 05:35:47 pm »
If was me I would try as is,...but have never done it

Offline Pat B

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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2019, 05:53:36 pm »
Clint built a bow a few years ago with a nail in it.
 I'd do like Brad  I would put super glue on the nail on the back and leave the belly side a little proud around the nail.
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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2019, 06:10:07 pm »
It depends on the design of bow you intend to make. The narrower the limb design the more of an issue it will be.

Treat the nail as if it was a pin knot, i.e.  a potential weakness, especially in tension. Compensate by leaving extra width at the spot, just as you should with a knot, or pin.

Also if you used edged tools or rasps a nail exposed on the belly side is going to wreck havoc. You have the option of carefully driving the nail right through, and out with a punch or punches,


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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2019, 06:12:58 pm »
THANK YOU!!

Offline apg

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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2019, 07:13:18 pm »
Like this right?

Offline sleek

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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2019, 08:10:15 pm »
Leave the nail, your profile looks fine. If you have a belt sander, use that to tiller, it wont notice the nail.
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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2019, 08:13:50 pm »
That's the right idea.
What ever the diameter of a knot or in this case nail then add that much to the limb at that point, eg if a limb was 1 &1/2" , and a knot is 1/8", the limb need to swell out to 1&5/8".

Yes, leaving the nail in will look cool.

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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2019, 08:58:21 pm »
A few years back, a fellow member on here named LEBHUNTFISH helped a guy build a bow with a nail in it. It shot fine as I'm sure yours will also.
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Offline bentstick54

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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2019, 08:59:31 pm »
Are you still following the grain by “curving” the profile around the nail, thus creating unnecessary grain run out?  Can you shift your whole profile over a bit and accomplish the same thing? Hard to see grain in picture, but I agree with treating it like a knot.

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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2019, 09:09:52 pm »
Here’s one I have at least 500-600 arrows through. Knot goes clear through the limb and is 1/3 large on the belly side. This is in lower limb also.

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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2019, 10:09:05 pm »
Ohhhh I see- so @bentstick54 you made the belly profile thicker around the nail and maybe a little wider too?

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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2019, 12:45:33 am »
I'm tempted to pre drill and nail into a perfectly clear piece of osage for my next bow:)

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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2019, 05:17:09 am »
I'm tempted to pre drill and nail into a perfectly clear piece of osage for my next bow:)

That would break fibers. A nail just pushes them away. I'm  amazed someone was able to drive a nail into osage. I didnt know that was possible.
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Re: Nail in stave
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2019, 06:57:05 am »
To nail straight into osage it would need to be very green.