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Black Moshannon:
Thanks Bradsmith for the idea I got my 20 yard point on today by raising my nock point on the string. I didn’t want to change anchor because my back tension was good and left right impact on point so I read online about how some achieved lowering their point on and raising the nock point was one solution. I raised mine from level with arrow pass to 3/4” above which dropped the point on to between 20-22 yards. 25 yards I’m holding just top of the target spot (8” circle). Fifteen yard gap is fifteen inches, beautiful. 10 and 17 yard gaps were like 8 inch? I didn’t actually map this out exactly yet because I was running around experimenting. But the gaps are so small now, I’m going to be pointing somewhere right on to just below animals rib cage at hunting ranges. Couldn’t be more excited. Going to map out the gaps later on.

BowEd:
Good explained self diagnosis of your procedure.You should do fine.
I watched a video of Clay Hayes the other day and realized through my archery shooting experience that I ended up shooting about exactly the way he explained at different distances etc.Through my own diagnosis.
In the past shooting with other bow makers/hunters at 3D shoots it was a benefit to me to get their comments.
I shoot heavy compared to some arrows myself also.With a lot of FOC weight on my shoot arrows.Firm believer in that too.There's no substitute for practice.
Most times I shoot from an elevated position and practice from there also a lot and always cant my bow to some degree.Practicing for me from all different uncomfortable angles and positions that can occur when a deer gets in that kill zone helps me too. From the ground on 1 knee at different angles also.
Going into the season after practicing that amount I like the feeling that if a deer gets into range he's on very thin ice.
Being patient for the deer to get their is all a part of the process of a successful hunt.
Good luck with your season.

Black Moshannon:
Thanks. Speaking of 3D shoot I went to one today, a trad get together near Troxelville. I shanked my first several shots horribly. I walked in pretty cocky with my 20 yard point on thinking I was really the man. I figured what could go wrong. My instinctive shooting friend was there and I was looking pretty bad. I had shot some shots this morning in the yard and target panic was starting to screw me up. I couldn’t hold the point where it needed to go and get to my trigger (I use a form of tab sear). I figured I would rest and maybe it would go away when I got to the shoot but of course it got worse. Fourth shot in or so I realized I was shooting perfect windage but just low on every shot. My friend even remarked on that. Soon after I realized I was misjudging the yardage, most shots we were taking turned out to be 25 yards and I was thinking I was within twenty. I still couldn’t get the point where it needed to be and hold it. So I changed up my internal verbal command and started nailing targets. My bruised ego was soothed but still I knew I wasn’t fully in control, I was jumping to target and releasing in one motion one some of the shots. We got done with the course and my friend left and I was still there and I decided to go through again. Same thing alone, couldn’t hold point on the spot. I was holding low, then jumping to target and releasing all at the same time. Just losing control, target panic. My verbal command was somehow weak, the focus wasn’t right.  So I did two things, I said, I will let down if i don’t have control, and I changed my internal verbal command to “Point on”. So i got into holding, and focused everything I had on getting that point where it needed to be, on the spot,  then just let it float there and watch that sight picture. No stress, just let it be what it is, ONCE I GOT IT ON THE SPOT. Then I let myself touch the tab trigger to release. Bam, problems solved. I was back in the driver seat. It’s a beautiful thing to float that point just below the belly or upper leg line at fifteen to twenty yards and watch the arrow sail into the kill zone. Almost felt like cheating. The hardest part is getting that point where I know the shot is assured to hit, and letting it be there for a split second without releasing. My subconscious wants to link that perfect aim to the release and take over for me. But once I can separate aim from release, just get the point on the spot and let it be there and focus on my release process (either a breathe in with full control or the tab sear), baby is it ever perfect. Total control, just pointing that thing where it needs to go, watching that sight picture and letting my instinct just hold the point where it needs to, and focusing on what I need to do to get to release as a separate task.

BowEd:
For some target shooting is 1 thing and hunting shooting is another.Both have their degrees of difficulty.
Getting on the board with a deer kill at close range can relax most.There is still always a bit of excitement while the shot is coming around.
Having my routine of draw and release imbedded subconsciously through practice helps.

Black Moshannon:
I think the 3D shoot mimics hunting shot more. I’m very relaxed shooting my flat bag target in my flat yard where there’s no chance of losing an arrow, or embarrassment or wounding an animal. Luckily a recurve shooting friend of mine has a 3D setup and we’re going to shoot it this week. More chances to have to focus on my shot process and refine it

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