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bow building grain orientation
CelticArcher:
While the topic has become removed from what I originally asked, I have learned a fair amount from reading it..
i'll try and get a picture of my eucalyptus bows (well, at least the one that worked best) and my RH warbow :)
CraigMBeckett:
Adb
--- Quote ---I've always wondered why you guys (Erik & Craig) don't have an off forum discussion about medieval longbows. As usual, you guys have dragged this topic (which was grain orientation in bow making) off to a pissing contest about medieval longbows. I, for one, find it annoying. This guy has asked for some advice. Why don't we keep it there?
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Threads wander where they wander, as I pointed out to you in a different post when you whinged in a similar manner, you yourself are responsible for threads wandering from where they began. I believe this is the 26th post in this thread, and Erick and I have only posted a few times mainly in answer to other posts as anyone without your jaundiced eye can easily see for themselves, indeed the post Erik opened with was directly aimed at the originator of this thread, who himself had moved on from grain orientation to bow backing and this post in answer to your whinge is 1/3 of the number of posts I have previously sent to this thread. Now, the originator of this thread has had his original question answered many times, he himself has varied the direction of the thread and again had his questions answered, he is also capable of complaining if he is offended by the direction any part of it takes and in this case it seems he is happy. While I gather you are not a fan of either history or the correct use of our language, in a forum on the English Warbow you are going to get information on both, I suggest that if you do not like what you read then stop reading it.
As for "a pissing contest about medieval longbows" your imagination and prejudice is getting the better of you I see nothing here that is remotely like that.
I would also remind you this forum is entitled English Warbow, and discussion here is meant to be on that subject and items connected with the same. I would suggest you stop wasting our time and refrain from posting such arrant nonsense.
Craig
CraigMBeckett:
--- Quote from: CelticArcher on May 19, 2011, 03:10:03 am ---While the topic has become removed from what I originally asked, I have learned a fair amount from reading it..
i'll try and get a picture of my eucalyptus bows (well, at least the one that worked best) and my RH warbow :)
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CelticArcher,
Its your Tassie oak/ Vic ash/eucalyptus regnans bow I'm interested in, I would be interested in any info you have on the density of the particular wood you use as your wood must be far better than the Vic Ash/Tassie Oak I can get locally.
By the way how do you know its Eucalyptus Regnans as opposed to Eucalyptus Obliqua or Eucalyptus Deegatensis, All three are sold commercially as Vic ash or Tassie Oak.
Erik,
--- Quote ---Craig In the second half of the fifteenth century, Edward IV issued a curious statute, his fifth act. Referring to Ireland,
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I was aware of that statute but as it referred to Ireland and overseas territory not "the Realm" I had not included notes on it in my list of Statutes affecting England and Wales etc.
--- Quote ---My assumption is that Cambrensis had enough familiarity with Norman bows to know what they were commonly made of, even though as a clergyman , like Ascham, he was not required to practice shooting
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Not true of their younger days, he was not born a clergyman, and anyway King Edward III's declaration of 1363:
"Whereas the people of our realm, rich and poor alike, were accustomed formerly in their games to practice archery – whence by God's help, it is well known that high honour and profit came to our realm, and no small advantage to ourselves in our warlike enterprises... that every man in the same country, if he be able-bodied, shall, upon holidays, make use, in his games, of bows and arrows... and so learn and practice archery."
Gave no permission for clerics not to practice. There is ample evidence of clerics not only practicing with the bow but in their using it both against the French and the Scottish.
What makes you think Ascham was not required to practice?
Craig.
adb:
--- Quote from: CraigMBeckett on May 19, 2011, 09:03:01 am ---Adb
--- Quote ---I've always wondered why you guys (Erik & Craig) don't have an off forum discussion about medieval longbows. As usual, you guys have dragged this topic (which was grain orientation in bow making) off to a pissing contest about medieval longbows. I, for one, find it annoying. This guy has asked for some advice. Why don't we keep it there?
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Threads wander where they wander, as I pointed out to you in a different post when you whinged in a similar manner, you yourself are responsible for threads wandering from where they began. I believe this is the 26th post in this thread, and Erick and I have only posted a few times mainly in answer to other posts as anyone without your jaundiced eye can easily see for themselves, indeed the post Erik opened with was directly aimed at the originator of this thread, who himself had moved on from grain orientation to bow backing and this post in answer to your whinge is 1/3 of the number of posts I have previously sent to this thread. Now, the originator of this thread has had his original question answered many times, he himself has varied the direction of the thread and again had his questions answered, he is also capable of complaining if he is offended by the direction any part of it takes and in this case it seems he is happy. While I gather you are not a fan of either history or the correct use of our language, in a forum on the English Warbow you are going to get information on both, I suggest that if you do not like what you read then stop reading it.
As for "a pissing contest about medieval longbows" your imagination and prejudice is getting the better of you I see nothing here that is remotely like that.
I would also remind you this forum is entitled English Warbow, and discussion here is meant to be on that subject and items connected with the same. I would suggest you stop wasting our time and refrain from posting such arrant nonsense.
Craig
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Okeedoh, Craig, you carry on being the resident expert in all things medieval warbow. It's funny, though, cuz for you and Erik, it always seems to 'wander' in the same direction. You, and Erik both, seem to have a special way of insulting just about everyone on this forum. I, for one, am tired of it.
CraigMBeckett:
With apologies to CelticArcher.
--- Quote ---It's funny, though, cuz for you and Erik, it always seems to 'wander' in the same direction. You, and Erik both, seem to have a special way of insulting just about everyone on this forum. I, for one, am tired of it.
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MMM! adb I had no idea that you were now the spokesman for everyone on this forum? I also find it strange that you feel insulted especially when again you have intervened in threads not started by you and by your actions are insulting the thread originator, the threads wandered with active participation of the originator, yet it is you who claims to be insulted!
Grow up and stop assuming the mantle of spokesman for the masses.
If the originator of any thread asks that it return to the original thrust fine but when one of the gallery whinges I shall ignore it.
--- Quote ---Craig, you carry on being the resident expert in all things medieval warbow
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My we are getting bitchy are we not?
Craig
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