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Gordon:
Badger I agree with you to an extent, however, when you are a novice building a bow that simply shoots and stays together is a feat in itself and worth celebrating. I look back at some of my first works and I just shudder now, but I am glad folks were measured in their criticism because I needed all the encouragement I could get to work my way through a long string of failed attempts. I’m not saying that we don’t point out obvious flaws like hinges, uneven tiller, inappropriate designs, etc. But some elements just take time to develop and should be encouraged in a positive manner (IMO). As for those of us who can no longer claim novice status, have at it – no diplomacy is necessary.
Dana, well said.
Hillbilly:
When I post a bow, I want and expect honest feedback, that's how I learn things that I didn't know before. I have seen a couple people get ticked off about constructive criticism of their bows, but that is quite rare- I think that most people are like me, and would like for someone who is more experienced to point out ways that we can improve our future bows.
DanaM:
Badger and Gordon glad ya didn't take offense at any of my comments. I made a criticiism of someones bow once and it got
ugly for a while but in the end we became friends and message each other to see whats new and such. If we all saw eye to eye on everything
it wouldn't be much of a forum now would it? I've said it before when I post pics of bow, have at me, don't be derogoatory but feel free to driticize
my bow. One other thing many of you when ya first started had the opportunity to train with an accomplised bowyer, thats like starting out school in 10th grade
most of us have to wing it thru books, internet and trial and error, makes it much tougher. Many of us also make due with what we can get cheap or free. fer instance where I live there is no osage, yew, ERC, mulberry, locust, elm, rattlesnakes, knappable rock, no primitive archer clubs or shoots etc. Don't own land to cut wood and its illegal to cut on state or federal land and don't have lots of disposable income to spend. I have to say that I have gotten some freebee's from folks on here with the promise of returning the favor down the road. And I much appreciate the generousity. I also have sent some items to folks without asking for anything in return. But realisticly try getting someone to tarde ya some osage for maple ;D I've been to the other forum sites and this is the best of the rest, a nice place to be with good folks.
Thanks for reading my ramblings eh.
Dana
duffontap:
Great thread everybody. I keep getting ready to post and end up deleting my message. Here's another attempt.
Gordon,
One reason why people have advocated limiting the number of wins is because this is a relatively subjective competition and the best bow doesn't necessarily win every month (or any month). You have won more times than anyone else so far but I have only seen one bow of yours that had a truly right-angled photo of the tiller--that was the first bow you won with. In most cases you are photographed with a natural, slightly-cated, slightly angled photo. You can tiller, so I'm not criticising that, but I am saying you could give the afficianados of bow design a chance to really pick apart the tiller with a perfect right-angled shot or a tillering tree shot. Another thing is, you're ambush bow was a dominant winner last month, but why? Most of us know that the ambush design depends on high early draw weight to perform well and 2" of set would put this bow in 'below average' category as far as performance goes. You admitted yourself that you had made the bow too narrow--so--it wasn't properly designed. Other than the design problems you mentioned and the below-average performance, your bow was perfect.
I love your bows but I thought I should balance out the praise with the reality that even your bows are subject to legitimate criticism.
J. D. Duff
medicinewheel:
yes, this IS a great thread!
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