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mullet:
Dazv,
You can serrate a point by setting up each serration with a platform and making real serrations, like what Shannon does with his Pinetrees.
Or you can finish your point edge and come back with a very fine, horse shoe nail and go perpendicular to the edge and make little micro-serrations by just flicking the very edge of the blade area.
You can also make a virgin edge by alternating your flaking at an angle from the tip towards the base by flip-flopping the point and not touching it up with any tool. To me, this is the sharpest.
I also believe notching and crisscrossing the sinew to tie it on impedes penetration on anything I'm shooting at. After all, who cares what happens to the point after you hit what you're shooting at? ???
crooketarrow:
TWISTED I bow hunted gobblers with selfbows for 21 years so far. I have KILLED 15 ,4 of those were wIth knapped heads. Last year I arrowed 2 GOBBLERS one with a trade point and a 2 year old with a DOG WOOD ARROW and OSIDIN POINT. 2 of my 4 of my knaped point kills were with a bow in the mid 60's another with a 56# and the one last year was with a 53#.
Although I never have had a pass though with a stone head on a gobbler all went to the feathers. I don't shoot wing bone shot's. No matter what you've been told or read it by far not the best arrow shot. All my side shots are right at the top of the drum stick this is where the heart lungs are to don't have to get through those over lapping heavy wing feathers. Plus if you take out his leg or legs he can't get the momention to get off the ground.
Here's another little tip that will help you out when setting up with a self bow or any weapon for that matter. Indains lived by the bow and they did'nt have any special powers. And have you ever seen there bow's and arrows very simple. Indians used this set up on deer as well as gobblers. This go's against all you see on TV or have read.
You have to set up to where the gobbler has to go past you. That means setting up with your back to the comeing gobbller or buck. Were taught to set up where you can see the bird coming. IF YOU CAN SEE HIM HE CAN SEE YOU. Plus after he go's by you his attion is to his front alowing you to draw.
I my granddad only shot gun hunt gobblers and had 312 gobblers in 92 springs. He set up like this 99% of the time. I've killed 31 with a shot gun 2 with a compound 2 with a recurve and 15 with a selfbow. Called up dozens for friends and guided haveing clients take another 60 gobblers. NOT TO SAY LETTING DOZENS AND DOZENS OF JAKES WALK. Not to mention most of the 36 selfbow bucks were taken like this. I'D SAY 95 % of bucks and gobblers WERE TAKEN USEING THIS SET UP.
Give this a try. My grandad roll over in his grave if he knew what I'd just told.
soy:
I agree with crooketarrow.i only shoot at two places, from the beard up and the drummys.everything else is to protected especially the wing the thick feathers plus they are away from the body so it absorbs a lot of tje force before it even hits the bird.its linda like a pitch hits tje glove and the glove hits you, versus the pitch hitting you square in the chest (pass through on a deer) if that makes any sence ???
Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive:
yeah i wont be aiming for the wing.
yup crook, Im the same way and often preach it too my friends..especially with deer hunting, i almost always set up where they come in behind me and pass me before i draw, this last one did as well and all was going to plan but then he stopped...which is good, but started turning around. i woulda had a nice quartering shot otherwise
Dazv:
I dont know if this helps at all???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eoyd1a90tk
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