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Offline Pappy

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Tell me what you think
« on: August 22, 2007, 06:26:03 am »
I thought after the Twins I would work on a good straight piece of wood ,so I picked one out ,it had a little wrinkle in one limb ,but I didn't think there was much to it,Well turned out worse than I had thought.I got it braces last night but it has been a struggle.I have some pictures from one side view then the other,look and tell me what you think,keep in mind how the to limb is dipping and
diving. ???
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Re: Tell me what you think
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2007, 06:29:31 am »
It has really be a bugger to tller,I have it out to 36@14 now,just real hard to see. :)I will have some more pictures in a day or 2.
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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2007, 06:47:19 am »
I would take wood off the midlimb and towards the tips on all of them. Hard to say without an unbraced profile..

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2007, 07:23:47 am »
Pappy, the limb with the wiggles looks a little stiff at brace, but one of my BL bows and especially my wife's Osage bow are the same. Then at full draw they are near perfect. I guess what I would do is work on wiggle limb and keep checking it. It just makes sense that wiggle limb will be stiffer and need more scraping. The other looks straight forward to bring it into compliance with the other. Sure will be another nice one.

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Re: Tell me what you think
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2007, 07:24:45 am »
Thats kind of what I had thought,I will get an unbraced,today.
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Re: Tell me what you think
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2007, 07:25:41 am »
Sorry though them were unbraced,I will get some.
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« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2007, 07:47:06 am »
That last photo looks real good. About 12 inch's out on the right limb is where I would very gingerly scrape it on that bottom bump. You know I always wondered is, in "bending moment" is the wood  stronger at the knot or straight grain section. I have never seen one snap at a knot. Maybe the fibers are really compressed at that point and more resistant to bending. Well live and learn.

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« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2007, 08:41:56 am »

Pappy, you and I have had problems with these dipping type of limbs in the past. We've tried to straighten them using dry heat prior to tillering...sometimes with success and sometimes ending up with a crack. Some of these limbs that have an extreme dip of either reflex or deflex in a short distance as this one does are nearly impossible to have them end up with that perfect limb sweep that you can get with say a clean piece of hickory. I think the challenge is to try and get those sections of the limb "working" evenly with the rest of the bow, and not worry about the "perfect" looking tiller at full draw.  :)

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Re: Tell me what you think
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2007, 08:49:19 am »
Pappy i think yer a glutton for punishment ;D You really like dem crooked ole sticks eh ;)
BTW its looking good to me
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Re: Tell me what you think
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2007, 08:53:25 am »
I'm enjoying this one Pappy, a little refresher that I needed (have lots of character staves leaning) keep the pic's and explanation's coming :)
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Re: Tell me what you think
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2007, 09:05:19 am »
I think you are right Dick,seems if you just don't get carried away on the scraping on the hard
spots they will work out OK.I just need to remember my rule,go slow and easy.Greg I know what you are saying,I though when I picked this one I could get it out but as usually I was wrong,Now
I have to live with it.I got it working a little last night after these pictures were taken,Got it
to 14 in. and it is looking better.I will get some shots of it at 14 and some unbraced pictures
also today and post in the morning.I need to get the outer limbs working a little more don't
yall think. :)
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Re: Tell me what you think
« Reply #11 on: August 22, 2007, 10:33:50 am »
Pappy, the tillering of such a stave is difficult. You have to let you eyes trace and imaginary line representing the tiller right through the limb. Jawge
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Re: Tell me what you think
« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2007, 10:36:56 am »
Looks  like  neither of the limbs is bending much mid limb on. It's good that you gave it a day to think about the tiller. Jawge
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« Reply #13 on: August 22, 2007, 10:42:26 am »
If you think about it, we measure straight from grip to tip but with wavy limbs they don't go straight.  But if you were to "straighten" them there would be more wood therefore causing it to be stronger and thus stronger.

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« Reply #14 on: August 22, 2007, 10:57:56 am »
Good point possum never though of it that way.Jawges you are also right sometimes it is best to just walk away and when you look at it again you see it in a different light. :)
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