thanks much guys
Ross-  yeah its a matter of working limb, especially with this one b\c it is so short. I started making them with much more gradual fades but over time i have thinned them more and more. in fact i really dont like to see bows that have long rigid handle areas.  i prefer to see a steep transition between limb and grip as opposed to a longer, flat no working portion in the bow.    i really like it if i can accomplish making the bow appear to bend through the handle even if it does not.   just a case of different strokes for different folks  

        this is the best i can do for a picture of what i dont like without finding someone elses bow and saying "i dont like this"  cuz thats not nice or supportive..lol   but this is the 2nd bow i ever made and you can see the grip extends out further and doesnt work.  also adds weigh.  thats like those big risered recurves they have out nowadays..lol  cant stand em.