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Offline RyanY

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #390 on: December 01, 2012, 03:48:27 pm »
TMK, I don't think that stave is large enough for what I'd want to ask of it but I really appreciate the offer. I'd definitely like to see what you can do with it though. I love the look of the sapwood on the back.
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #391 on: December 01, 2012, 03:54:40 pm »
Quote from: ryoon4690 on December 01, 2012, 03:48:27 pm
TMK, I don't think that stave is large enough for what I'd want to ask of it but I really appreciate the offer. I'd definitely like to see what you can do with it though. I love the look of the sapwood on the back.

You sure? You could easily get 150# @ 32" out of this stave if you really wanted to?, heck, probably way more. I mean easily. And tension wise, the back is nice and clean, there shouldn't be no real reason why it should fail. Especially if you keep it around 100#. It would probably end up about 69" ntn...
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 the part that has too little is increased."

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #392 on: December 01, 2012, 04:20:17 pm »
Well heck if he don't want it  ;D
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Offline RyanY

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #393 on: December 01, 2012, 04:49:52 pm »
Yet another thing we disagree on!  ::)
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #394 on: December 01, 2012, 05:00:57 pm »
Quote from: ryoon4690 on December 01, 2012, 04:49:52 pm
Yet another thing we disagree on!  ::)

 ;D What exactly do you think is too small about it? In the thickness, or the length? Either way, yes, I disagree with you! I only ask though because the thickness photo is near the tip, so show the sapwood ratio. There is definitely enough meat to get a darn 200# bow if you were crazy enough, and then some. If you are concerned about  a 68" - 69" 100#-ish 32" draw osage bow... well..., you shouldn't be.  8) It has been done many times. (...Ryoon, I think you might just be wussing out...  ... j/k ;) ) Either way, your choice. The offer will still be on the table if you change your mind in the near future.

EDIT: Also, if I had a bigger stave, I would send you one.
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 the lower part is raised up,
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 the part that has too little is increased."

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #395 on: December 01, 2012, 05:02:01 pm »
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 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #396 on: December 01, 2012, 05:44:30 pm »
I'll take it, if no one else is interested. I pay a fortune to get osage up here! I'm serious!
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Offline RyanY

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #397 on: December 01, 2012, 05:49:20 pm »
It's not that I don't want the stave. It would make an excellent bow. But I'd like to get 120#@32" out of it and it looks a bit too small. What's the width and thickness in the middle and on the ends?
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Offline toomanyknots

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #398 on: December 01, 2012, 07:46:44 pm »
Quote from: ryoon4690 on December 01, 2012, 05:49:20 pm
It's not that I don't want the stave. It would make an excellent bow. But I'd like to get 120#@32" out of it and it looks a bit too small. What's the width and thickness in the middle and on the ends?

It is far far wide enough everywhere, I will tell you that. Honestly, I know I said 150, but that is accounting for the possibility of correcting sloppy tool marks that might of resulted from me roughing it out. Honestly, if you wanted, you could go as heavy as you want with this stave. I wouldn't offer it if it wouldn't give you your warbow. It don't take much osage to make a bow, I'm sure you know this.  ;) The thickness is around 1 1/4" at center. It's been a while, but around 7/8", (more than likely 3/4", or possibly even less) thickness at center at 68" ntn or so should be all you need for basically as heavy as you want with good osage.   
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 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #399 on: December 01, 2012, 08:05:45 pm »
Ok i will take the osage stave lol
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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #400 on: December 01, 2012, 08:12:04 pm »
Quote from: iowabow on December 01, 2012, 08:05:45 pm
Ok i will take the osage stave lol

Haha, I feel like I'm back in jail around here, trying to fight for my lunch tray again,  ;D ;D ;D. I should know better than to whip out some osage around you guys...  ;)
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 the upper part is pressed down,
 the lower part is raised up,
 the part that has too much is reduced,
 the part that has too little is increased."

- Tao Te Ching, 77, A new translation by Victor H. Mair

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #401 on: December 01, 2012, 08:17:49 pm »
 >:D >:D
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Offline RyanY

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #402 on: December 01, 2012, 08:23:20 pm »
How wide is far far wide enough?  ???
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Offline bow101

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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #403 on: December 01, 2012, 08:46:51 pm »
Speaking from what I have read. Why would someone pack around a bow that weighs 20lbs and some 74 inches long. OK my understanding is that Osage is quite heavy.........and a heavy puller. Sounds like a tank in the bush, Where as a nice light shorty made from a lighter wood is more agile and quicker..
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Re: Why I think osage is an inferior bow wood...
« Reply #404 on: December 01, 2012, 08:49:45 pm »
You need more of the lighter wood to make a bow of the same draw weight and draw length. The physical weight comes out nearly the same and the lighter woods have more more volume making them arguably 'bulkier' than the comparable osage bow.
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