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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2013, 04:49:47 pm »
Here's mine so far }|{opukc.

Nice work Beadman - You Had to do kasan area and it would be wonderful turkish bow.



@dragonman - I doubt for a 150, but 90-120 is very real.

This bow is made from Peter Benchik from Hungary, it si replica of hungarian bow / funeral mound in Szeged - Hungary/, the bow pulling 140#@28"

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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2013, 09:50:14 pm »
Yep I agree }|{opukc.I don't figure to need bridges on that one.I'll try to get the tips reflexed to within 6" of each other with three courses of sinew.
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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2013, 02:23:11 pm »
Hello.Would this help?I think it's doable and durable enough.I'm worried about it stacking at full draw without it.28 to 30 inch draw.The bow will be 50 and 3/4" NTN.
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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2013, 02:25:36 pm »
Glued on sections of edge grain wood and then horn to increase tip angle.Or is it not going to be necessary.
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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #49 on: June 19, 2013, 04:06:01 pm »
Siyahs can not pay now. But section  before kasan frame is possible. This with dry heat. Then Horn. Sorry, but my English is very bad. I hope you understand correctly .. :)

This bow is a similar construction like yours with 3 layers sinew - this bow making by my friend.



Fulldraw pic 80#@30"


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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #50 on: June 19, 2013, 05:23:09 pm »
Thanks for your reply and that's ok I understand you well and good.I just hope you understand me...That's a pretty nice bow of your friends there too.By the look on your friends face though pulling 80# is enough for him.Do these horn bows feel less at full draw then what the actual draw weight it is pulling,or do you have to get into making horn bows up around the 120# draw weight to have that effect?.Can a bow pulling 65# feel like maybe 50# at full draw?Have you shot your friends bow?
I did steam bend my core on the last six inches of each end 2" set back each before putting on siyahs and glueing horn to core.
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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #51 on: June 19, 2013, 05:52:02 pm »
Very nice. Markus :)

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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2013, 06:42:56 pm »
Can a bow pulling 65# feel like maybe 50# at full draw?

No, I did not shoot with this bow.
Horn bow is like a system of levers, power is very uniform in final inches draw. Self bow force stops at full draw and bow as blocked. Hornbow pulls smoothly and evenly - even at fulldraw may more and more.
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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #53 on: June 20, 2013, 01:05:48 am »
OK thanks for the info,I understand the lever theory and I have accomplished that with self bows too.It's about what I've heard from other sources about the smoothness of draw continuing on and on with horn bows.How long was your friends' bow?Sorry I'm so full of questions but I get that way when I'm into something I'm interested in.My bow will be 50 and 3/4" NTN.Will 28 to 30 inches of draw be plesantly possible?
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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #54 on: June 20, 2013, 03:08:17 am »
Yes, 50" is very well. In general, this is a standard length - between 48-52" . Hun bows is a 54"
Bow above was 43" or 45" I'm not sure exactly.
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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #55 on: June 20, 2013, 09:30:28 am »
Thanks for reply about the length of your friends bow.It is a shorter one then.Is there a picture of his bow at rest after shooting?I will try to keep as much reflex in the sal area [working or bending portion of my bow] through sinewing more there than the rest of the bow for performance reasons.Leaving levers stiff.Adam Korpowitzs & Jeff Schmidts way of sinewing.I've done it that way before with good success on self bows.It's been nice talking to you and congratulations on the accomplishments you've made on all of your horn bows.They are truly a work of art.Time consuming yes but still awsome!!!!!
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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #56 on: June 20, 2013, 10:06:18 am »
You can turn sal section of reflex and then siwened
This is my partner / Marian Manyovski / - I worked with him bolmaking.

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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #57 on: June 20, 2013, 10:52:23 am »
I am not a member of facebook.Nor do I intend to be but thanks for info.I think when you say turn sal section of reflex you mean reverse bracing correct?Yes I've done this numerous times while sinewing for more reflex on self bows.Putting sinew into compression horn on belly into tension as it's reverse braced thus the bow will relieve itself when it is braced then store more and more energy not getting overstrained to full draw.Making a more durable bow that'll last for quite some time.
Here are a few pctures of what I mean.This is a very efficient bow and shot at least 1000 times.
A sinewed hard maple,birch back covered with gemsbok horn on belly.58 and 1/2" NTN,52#@28".
First resting then the back and then the belly.
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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #58 on: June 20, 2013, 10:56:46 am »
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Re: Hunnish style hornbow
« Reply #59 on: June 20, 2013, 10:58:33 am »
belly
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