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DC:

--- Quote from: jackcrafty on October 25, 2014, 05:27:58 pm ---If you move the banner close to the drill bit, I wonder if it would blow the drilling dust away?
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That's funny ;D ;D


--- Quote ---Anyway, a wooden banner would do the same thing, but maybe the higher weight of the stone makes the whole drill more stable?

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Maybe they did use wood and none survived >:D

Zuma:
Great questions and ideas.
DC I dream about these things and don't really want to. lol
What really drives me is the hole diameters. It just don't make sense for an atatl.
No matter I wish you could try my rig. I don't exactly know why but the shape
is all important and it really works well. I'll post a photo of a blocky banner that was worse than having nothing at all on the shaft.
I couldn't imagine a better drill rig and if I had to make a living drilling holes in prehistoric stone, making a banner like mine would not be a problem.
The ease and speed of the drilling would be totally worth the effort.
BTW Mine has semetrical wings. In one of the links they said usually the wings are slightly off set. A little like a propeller. Hummm.
Using the rig under shop conditions would better insure it's longevity compared
to running through the woods and streams chasing game.
Thanks for the input. Please keep thinking about it.
Jack, the dust idea is a good one. For some reason in the beginning I was blowing the dust. Why I don't know? It actually takes you off balance a bit.
When I drilled the last hole I didn't clear the dust till the drill was
 poking through the other side of the soapstone.
It would be interesting to learn if leaving or removing the dust matters in the process.  The dust I created is heavy and I don't think the banner would remove it.
But if I turned the banner upside down it would be better for that idea.
About wood weight-- why not on atatl shafts too. Why don't we find atatal shafts here in N. America??
I really appreciate the neat responses. It may help me sleep better.
Thanks again and here is another link.
Zuma


   Drills of Indians - Marianopolis
faculty.marianopolis.edu/c.Belanger/.../DrillsofIndians.htm  
The work done by the American Bureau was monumental, well informed and ... Artificially perforated objects of bone/

Zuma:
LOL I forgot Patrick,
I know full well you are an innovator extraordinaire.
So I post this just for you my friend.

Use a worm to clear a cane's core.
Put a wood bore larva in one end and seal it.
Then heat the shaft and make the worm eat for it's life.  Use a little more heat
just before the job is done and you can eat a steamed treat as well.
Zuma

JackCrafty:
About wood weight-- why not on atatl shafts too. Why don't we find atatal shafts here in N. America??

Zuma, there are survivimg examples of atlatl shafts, and the various parts, in the Southwest.  Here is a good page that details finds in Tularosa Cave, New Mexico:

http://basketmakeratlatl.com/?page_id=458

JackCrafty:
For those who are not aware, many atlatls in the Southwest look like the example below.  Note the use of colorful river pebbles as atlatl weights.  No bannerstones here.   :)

---http://basketmakeratlatl.com/?page_id=1129

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