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Del the cat:
Groan, here we go again ::).
@ WillS ...
You are guilty of choosing whatever you like to support your "argument de jour"
Those videos which you have previously and repeatedly referred to as being exemplary. Showed the archer getting to v near full draw, dipping down to get full draw, then coming all the way up, then down a bit and finally loosing and leaping.
I distinctly remember in a previous thread analysing it frame at a time and estimating full draw being held for about 4 seconds and the leap being after the arrow had left the string.
There are so many variables that even if a leaping rolling loose does give extra distance it is impossible to say which part of it is actually making the improvement.
I don't think the leap is a part of any other flight shooting (but I'm happy to be corrected on this), whereas a snatch loose and not holding at full draw is.
Maybe the leap helps contribute to a snatched loose. Without decent high speed photography and painstaking analysis we won't know.
Finally to say it adds distance could simply be that without it their loose is poor or they are subconsciously not getting a good draw loose. In other words biasing the experiment to support their expected result. It happens in all fields of experiment, even those with fewer variables.
Del
WillS:
Not getting drawn in :)
It's all been said and I wasn't starting anew. I was replying to Mike's specific question, using a video to support that. Watch the video, and its impossible to disagree as you can see the arrow moving backwards into the bow until released. That's all.
No mention of whether the "leaping" has any effect whatsoever. That's on other forums in other discussions and doesn't need to be dragged up again here, as personal opinions will clearly never change on this odd little topic!
Del the cat:
Some stills grabbed from this thread... draw your own conclusions.
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,46139.0.html
For Hooray Horace. Note the reltive right hand elbow positions. Starts high and finishes very low.
Del
PatM:
Will, The point is that the bow is still held at virtual maximum extension for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if a bow starts dropping weight with every second at an even shorter draw than we think.
If you get a bow to 31 inches and then spend an extra four seconds getting the last inch it can't be beneficial.
Looking at the pics it's hard to see definitively but it looks like full draw is reached while pointing at the ground, lost a bit on the way up and regained again.
HoorayHorace:
What's with the guys in the background wearing WW2 Axis Uniforms? Is that the dress or something? The military look?
I was referring to this on YouTube. Looks really odd to me, and I think others might agree. @2.05, never seen anything like it in my life :o
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xWXp0_VTr-A
Don't want to sound like I'm picking on him though, bing honest though his strange release and posture might not be his fault. Never would pick on the less fortunate.
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