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Offline Buckeye Guy

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Re: Old Native arrow (cave find)
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2015, 12:36:19 pm »
Another nice find !!
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Re: Old Native arrow (cave find)
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2015, 01:50:38 pm »
Wow!  Very cool.
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Offline Oglala Bowyer

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« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2015, 02:57:06 pm »
Thanks for sharing!!  We (Lakota) have the same belief when we come across the same artifacts, in which we leave them alone.  The same goes if we take an artifact with the firm belief we will be riddled with hard luck because the artifact may be part of a burial.  It belongs where it lays and certainly not in any museum.

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« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2015, 08:13:38 pm »
I can only wish the worse of afflictions on the sorry pieces of work that make a career of pot hunting.

Thanks for sharing, that's some wonderful pot making skills there! 
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Offline Buck67

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Re: Old Native arrow (cave find)
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2015, 07:50:31 pm »
My Grandmother was an Inuit from Baffin Island.  In her culture, if a hunter was out and broke his gun and there was a good one on a burial mound, it was OK to leave the broken one and take the good one.  It was not OK to take a thing and not leave something of equal value.

I have always thought that the archeologists that are always digging should put the people back in their earth with replacements for anything taken.  That would mess up future diggers to find a 1,000 year old person with stainless steel bowls.

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Re: Old Native arrow (cave find)
« Reply #20 on: April 01, 2015, 10:06:31 pm »
In many cases, it seems likely that broken things left out in the open were just considered to be useless. Things arranged together, may well have been placed for some purpose. Just as today, an aluminum pop can in the ditch has no spiritual significance and can be picked up by anybody who wants it. But flowers and a cross placed together at the side  of a road obviously are meant to memorialize something.

No matter. Very nice to find things like those.
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Re: Old Native arrow (cave find)
« Reply #21 on: April 05, 2015, 04:27:44 pm »
Very cool! Even though I dive the rivers here for artifacts and fossils, I have the utmost respect for your beliefs and how you treat your finds.
 Thanks for posting these pictures.
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Re: Old Native arrow (cave find)
« Reply #22 on: April 07, 2015, 10:32:24 am »
Absolutely awesome! I understand your view on takeing artifacts. its like kicking over someones headstone or something like that.it just don't feel right and you know its wrong.respect.

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Re: Old Native arrow (cave find)
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2015, 01:04:19 pm »
That is a very rewarding find. My questions is this, why don't the critters chew that sinew off? You'd think pack rats or something like that would eat it.
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« Reply #24 on: April 13, 2015, 03:37:58 am »
What would be achieved by picking something up that never belonged to you and taking it to a museum....
Your beliefs and traditions should be all that governs what happens to finds like these. I respect you for not doing what a lot of people would have done.
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Re: Old Native arrow (cave find)
« Reply #25 on: April 14, 2015, 01:30:18 am »
What would be accomplished by taking it to a museum? Im under the impression that museums are a great way to preserve artifacts and allow the public to view and appreciate it. As opposed to leaving it under a rock where it will eventually degrade, I would assume that it would be the logical thing to do. No criticism towards you for your sentiments on how you prefer it be handled. To each their own and thats fine.
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Offline Oglala Bowyer

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Re: Old Native arrow (cave find)
« Reply #26 on: April 16, 2015, 09:05:03 am »
It might sound counterintuitive to just leave it and let nature take its course but when you're brought up with your culture and language you learn to respect the fact that something like the pot or arrow is there for a reason. Perhaps as an offering or part of a burial. In any of the two examples, something like this holds no place in a museum. Besides museums are notorious for holding items that were taken from graves. Sad but true.

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Re: Old Native arrow (cave find)
« Reply #27 on: April 16, 2015, 10:00:35 am »
You shouldnt take things from graves.
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