Gut, love those tips. OK, got my hack to 47# @ 25". But... Its gonna be a bow, but i 'm not gonna send it out. Had an appifanity , read back a couple pages and a couple guys talkin about simplicity. I've been tryin to build above my ability. So gonna step back and start over. My plan C is gonna be a straight forward selfbow. Hopefully it turns out. Hackberry, 66". 2" at thee fades taperin to 1/2" tips. My progress will slow down because i have to go back to basics re-asses what i'm doin and not force somethin that might or might not work out.