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Offline Nasr

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Hide glue strength
« on: April 22, 2018, 02:45:50 pm »
 
  Hello everyone just curious would hide glue be strong enough to laminate bow woods together or is that asking too much.
I don't have much experience with the stuff just curious.

Offline PatM

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2018, 03:06:03 pm »
    It's fine if you work with it properly.

Offline Nasr

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2018, 03:11:47 pm »
thanks for the response Pat. Lol i realized after i posted the question that horn bows are made by laminating horn to core with hide glue. So kinda wasted peoples time with this question sorry.

Offline Springbuck

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2018, 03:20:17 pm »
  We don't mind! 

  You are right, though.  Yumi bows, too.  Horn bows and any laminate.  The trade off is long drying times and perfect mating of the glued surfaces because hide glue doesn't fill gaps well.

Offline Nasr

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2018, 03:28:35 pm »
i wanted to attempt a mollegabet bow with spliced levers at the end with the v splice and i kinda wanted to use hide glue maybe wrap it with sinew as well for extra measure. maybe a splice handle as well. I am feeling a little bit experimental and wanted to try new things.

Offline Nasr

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2018, 03:32:01 pm »
springbuck i mostly use boards anyway so i have a flat surface that shouldn't be too big of a problem. I live in Michigan and i cant seem to find a way to get staves here.

Offline Springbuck

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2018, 03:32:53 pm »
Stick around.  Your area should be absolutely riddled with bow wood.

Offline Nasr

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2018, 04:52:11 pm »
Springbuck you are right but i dont know how to go about harvesting wood. I dont think people would like me cutting trees down on there property lol.

Offline willie

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2018, 06:12:58 pm »
I presume that you are not in a rural location.  If living in town, you have to be creative. I have found saplings in the swamp behind the industrial park or creek bottom between the shopping center and the highway somewhere down the railroad tracks away from houses, etc. you only need a 2" - 3" diameter "walking stick"

Offline Nasr

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2018, 07:37:33 pm »
I am always afraid to get in trouble with people when i find a tree. Is it legal here in michigan to take down small trees in public land?

Offline willie

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2018, 08:48:00 pm »
Not if you ask and get an OK.   some folks can't be bothered and will blow you off, but others will smile and help. scout out some staves in places that owners probably won't care one way or another. sometimes government folks will say no just because there is nothing in the existing way of doing things to "approve"
where as private owners can easily just say "sure", go for it.

Offline PatM

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2018, 09:06:30 pm »
You can find a volunteer program for Buckthorn removal. ;)

Offline Nasr

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2018, 10:20:04 pm »
i think i might just cut my own tree down lol
that shoul keep me good for a couple years

Offline Ryan Jacob

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Re: Hide glue strength
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2018, 03:50:53 am »
Nasr
You’d be pretty surprised how short you’re  stave supply lasts ;D