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Offline backtowood B2W

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Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26" ?165fps??
« on: October 21, 2018, 11:53:54 am »
Hi everyone!
This is my 10th bow, i roughed the green stave out and after 2 weeks i put it above the oven to dry out, maybe it wasn't  dry enough when i started to tiller. i have a wood moisture device now...
As it was very short, at least for my standard, i decided to try a hollow limb design paired with a pyramid and stiff handle.
All in all a good decision i just didn't bring the inner limbs, right out of the fades, to bend. i think the HLD was bewaring it from getting chrysalis!
She took a lot of set and stringfollow and i recognised her getting weaker from shot to shot. So it wasn't used much and i decided to try out my second heat treating experiments (the first heat treatment was maple and was almost smoking...)
So i heat treated the limbs and pulled out the set. As i already recognised my not bending areas i tried to tiller it down to 35# again - by trimming the sides as i didn't want to destroy my wonderful heat treatment. Today i think this was the second big mistake i made....
So the lower limb is narrower as the upper and still not working out of the fade. I closed this chapter at 35#, as it was shooting a bit better than before.
At least, and thats why i show this bow, maybe someone gets inspired by the tips and the handle. This was my last one where i cut in an arrow shelf. IMO they look always a bit strange on a self bow so i redesigned the handle from an earlier bow (my first static.......failure), as i liked the ergonomic feel and look a lot.

Thanks for reading, and as i"am a beginner i really appreciate criticism , suggestions , ... so please feel free to reply. thank you!
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Offline backtowood B2W

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Re: Ash R/D 60"35#28"
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2018, 11:57:18 am »
handle, 58" is not correct

Offline backtowood B2W

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Re: Ash R/D 60"35#28"
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2018, 11:59:34 am »
tips
Thanks for watching

Offline simk

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Re: Ash D/R 60"35#28"
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2018, 01:03:41 pm »
Bttw,

just impressive how you screwed that 28 draw out of thar short piece of ash.

Again admiring that fine craftsmanship - outstanding how you craft out all those little, tiny forms and shapes on your bows.

At first sight i saw a glass-bow, which couldn't be as glass is evil on this site  >:D ...this handle combined with very straight and symmetrical limbs...

Nothing at all to critisize - but if the arrows group a bit low, check this http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,64406.0.html

Cheers
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Re: Ash D/R 60"35#28"
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2018, 10:59:05 pm »
You certainly have a talent for carving graceful lines and shapes. That handle is beautiful. Something that may help how it shoots.. it might be me lacking a sense of scale but the tips look unnecessarily beefy to me.
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Offline ohma2

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Re: Ash D/R 60"35#28"
« Reply #5 on: October 24, 2018, 08:50:20 am »
Great lookin bow.yes the tips are a bit heavy but id leave that one be and consider it done.

Offline backtowood B2W

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Re: Ash D/R 60"35#28"
« Reply #6 on: October 24, 2018, 01:08:46 pm »
simk,halfbow, thanks for the tips!
It looks not really balanced to me, but it shoots with very little handshock, and as the target weight was dismissed I won't do anymore.
Halfbow, my tips are getting slimmer ;) this ones are 3/8 wide and 6/8 thick.

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Re: Ash D/R 60"35#28"
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2018, 07:09:35 pm »
Nice work! Good looking bow.

Tattoo Dave
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Offline selfbow joe

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Re: Ash D/R 60"35#28"
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2018, 07:27:59 am »
Nice work! Good looking bow

Offline backtowood B2W

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Yew facing
« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2019, 12:23:02 pm »
Simk gave me some yew laminates(thank you!) and shooting his Rowan yewinized Bow - I wanted to give this a try too.
I took this out of COS, and reopened this chapter.
So this is my first laminate bow (ok I did the glue up and laminates twice...) and I am quite happy with the transformation.
I didn't glu in a Perry reflex instead i bent the lams with the heat gun to reflex the tips 2". (Next time I better read first and then down to action...)
So it took 1/2" Set and lost most of the reflex, Stringfollow is another 1/2"
I also didn't draw it further than 26" any more, as I see the limbs working pretty hard. Drawweight is 40#.
I was a bit afraid to give to much bend into the fades as this seems to be the most critical part for the glue.
I maybe overshot my concerns, but it holds together very good.
I shot around 400 arrows by now and this will become my next time shooter. Its not a rocket launcher but arrows are pretty fast and fly straight.
I also like the used look from the old stain, the egg in the handle really pops out....just asking myself which was first...
As this is my first lam bow I'm hoping to see many suggestions, concerns, ....
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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now 40#26"
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2019, 12:25:13 pm »
60" ntn
39,3#@26"
Water buffalo horn nocks
Bamboo plugs
2compepoxy
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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now 40#26"
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2019, 12:26:14 pm »
Was curios about the drawchart, seems to be one of my better ones. Maybe I can crono her tomorrow...
10" - 10#  + 4#
12  - 14     +3,5
14  - 17,5  +3,2
16  - 20,7  +3,5
18  - 24,2  +3,3
20  - 27.5  +3.3
22  - 30,8  +4,2
24  - 35     +4,3
26  - 39,3

I do this with a analog hanging scale, so it is not 100%
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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now 40#26"
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2019, 12:27:47 pm »
The draw is smoother than I expected, but for sure you can feel the stringangle at the nocks last 2" of draw.
thanks for looking
BTW
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Offline Nasr

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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now 40#26"
« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2019, 12:46:47 pm »
 That is one sexy bow. Damn!

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Re: Ash D/R 60"ntn 35#28" now with yew facing 40#26"
« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2019, 02:08:00 pm »
Nice.