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Offline Deerhunter21

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Hackberry build along
« on: July 22, 2019, 11:56:55 am »
So i got this beautiful hackberry blank from the outlaw. I am trying to get a fifty pound draw out of it. Its a pyramid style bow and i might try to flip the tips. Could use suggestions, comments, or criticism! Thanks. Right now im trying to get it floor tillered.
« Last Edit: October 06, 2019, 09:23:53 am by Deerhunter21 »
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Offline Msturm

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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2019, 05:59:00 pm »
Looks great so far!  I find that the more particular I am about the floor tillering and fondling process the easier tillering becomes.   Keep up the good work, I am looking forward to seeing how it turns out.

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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2019, 07:21:28 pm »
I’ll be watching. Good luck with it.
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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2019, 02:14:54 am »
Looks good Russell. Hope you get a nice bow from that stave.
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Offline upstatenybowyer

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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2019, 06:26:21 am »
Hackberry loves a good belly toasting, and smells terrific when you do it!
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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2019, 08:57:47 am »
Like popcorn!  Don’t stress it much without a solid toasting.
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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2019, 08:31:52 pm »
ok so what should i do? floor tiller then toast? Toast then tiller? get it to brace then toast? thank you for letting me know to heat treat it. I gotta make a caul so ill get that done asap! ill keep you posted.  :BB :BB  )P(
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Offline Hrothgar

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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2019, 03:53:36 am »
I like to have a stave bending just a little before toasting the belly, so my suggestion is floor tiller before toasting. Hackberry is a good wood to work.
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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2019, 05:47:41 am »
I do as Hrothgar suggested, then again at the end of tillering, after sanding with 120 grit (I finish with 220).

You want the heat to penetrate 1/8" or so into the belly. Remember that heat treating will add 5 or more pounds of draw weight, so if you do as I suggest, you want the draw weight just under your target prior to the last toasting.
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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2019, 05:51:30 am »
I've never worked hackberry... guess it is like hickory ... I take this is going to be built like a board bow since it is quartersawn... good luck with it...gut

Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2019, 07:19:02 am »
I've never worked hackberry... guess it is like hickory ... I take this is going to be built like a board bow since it is quartersawn... good luck with it...gut

It's not quarter sawn.  It's a split stave.
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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2019, 07:46:31 am »
looking at end of stave its a quartersawn cut.. so no ring to chase?... I'm lost....gut

Offline osage outlaw

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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2019, 07:55:14 am »
looking at end of stave its a quartersawn cut.. so no ring to chase?... I'm lost....gut

Those are saw tooth marks, not growth rings.  It's a split stave that has been roughed out. 
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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2019, 09:38:33 am »
Yep. That’s a split stave. Untempered Hackberry is nearly useless imo. Tempered Hack is a different animal entirely. Temper just after floor tiller and I temper again once the color is scraped off.
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Re: Hackberry build along
« Reply #14 on: July 24, 2019, 10:26:11 am »
wow.. they sure look like rings..haha... Is hackberry like hornbeam?...