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Offline NicAzana

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Sweet Cherry (Prunus avium) advice
« on: August 17, 2019, 08:27:55 am »
I recently cut some wild cherry on my land here in Denmark, and took the outer bark for backing strips, the tree was rather large, and has 1-2 inch thick sapwood. My qustion is: is there any reason to remove the sapwood, other than cosmetic? How does cherry sapwood compare to heartwood?

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Offline Pat B

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Re: Sweet Cherry (Prunus avium) advice
« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2019, 02:43:31 pm »
I would use the sapwood under the bark as the back. I imagine the bark slipped right off. The black cherry I've used has been the sapwood and not the heartwood.
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Re: Sweet Cherry (Prunus avium) advice
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2019, 05:12:47 pm »
The two Cherries mentioned above I have no experience with . Wild Choke  Cherry self  bows never worked out for me. I broke to many from the back. I have one left out of five that I have built. When I get enough I will back it with sinew. They broke on me after being shot from 100 to 300 hundred arrows.When they break they explode.Our Natives used it as bow wood ,but sinewed the back.

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Re: Sweet Cherry (Prunus avium) advice
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2019, 08:35:06 pm »
Iíve got some good cherry here. The tension aspect of the wood isnít not good at all however the compression factor is awesome. Make them wide and long and youíll have a bow thatís really sweet. Short sinew backed bows are a good idea too

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Re: Sweet Cherry (Prunus avium) advice
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2019, 08:38:48 pm »
Never have worked Sweet Cherry, but if it is anything like black cherry, I rate the back as somewhere between ERC and dry pasta. When it letís go, itís very entertaining!
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Offline NicAzana

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Re: Sweet Cherry (Prunus avium) advice
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2019, 04:01:11 am »
Thanks guys! I was thinking of backing any bows I made out of it with cherry bark from the same tree, but i dunno whether thatíll be enough. Wide would mean no heartwood I think .. itís just so pretty though!
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Re: Sweet Cherry (Prunus avium) advice
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2019, 09:30:49 am »
Cherry heartwood might make a good bow but I would surely back it. All of the black cherry bows I've made(maybe 6 or 8)have all been sapwood. Backing it could be an improvement.
 There is cherry bark for backing and cherry bark not for backing. Black cherry bark wouldn't make a good backing. IMO.  I've used chokecherry bark for backing and it is a great bow backing not only for protection and beauty but I think it adds to the performance. The only other cherry bark I've seen that would make a good backing was from a Quansan cherry, an ornamental, flowering Asiatic cherry. If your wild cherry has a similar bark as these other two I mentioned then it would probably make a good backing. These cherries have thin but very strong bark.
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Re: Sweet Cherry (Prunus avium) advice
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2019, 10:40:01 am »
Pat: The inner bark does not really want to come off easily. If I manage it without damage to the sapwood, Iíll probably do what you did. The outer bark peels off easily in strips around the circumference of the tree, is thin, but almost impossible to rip, so i think itís the right stuff.

looks like this: https://images.app.goo.gl/zxK3hT4EFGQwQtEj8
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Re: Sweet Cherry (Prunus avium) advice
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2019, 10:55:24 am »
Yes, that looks like the choke cherry and Quansan cherry barks I mentioned. That should work great.  As far as the inner bark is concerned a light scraping and/or sanding should remove most of that and even with some slight violations the bark backing should give plenty of protection.
Looking forward to seeing the results.   :OK
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Offline NicAzana

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Re: Sweet Cherry (Prunus avium) advice
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2019, 11:32:25 am »
Iíll try that. Itíll need to dry first, and I just got my hands on some nice laburnum, but I also want to finish the yew molly Iím working on, as well as the elm pyramid I have roughed out.. Pheww, getting more staves is definitely faster than finishing bows :P
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Re: Sweet Cherry (Prunus avium) advice
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2019, 02:06:20 pm »
Well, get busy.  ;)
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