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Russ:
--- Quote from: PEARL DRUMS/PEARLY/PD/DRUMS on November 13, 2019, 09:06:45 am ---A needle sharp point requires 1.9# of pressure to poke through fresh venison hide. That being said, a true 40 yards is irresponsible no matter how good you are with your bow in the yard. Our bows, even the fast ones, are slow as slugs. A deer can spin in circles twice before the arrow travels that far. Simple, curious question I'm sure, but don't even think about it.
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Yeah, I wouldn't ever dare to shoot at a deer at that yardage. My friend that gave me the roast wanted to see my bow and said "yeah if you could shoot a deer at 40 yards, then you could hunt deer." I then explained to him that people wont even go over 20 yrds which i dont know if he believed. I then became curious if it was even possible. nothing i would ever attempt. I like to know what a bow can do. but what I can do with a bow is wayyyyyy different. ill stick to 10 yrds with a foam target. ;D
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PEARL DRUMS:
40 yards is too far for any arrow in my opinion. Cross gun or compound or glass bow or self bow. Keep in mind that a bow that shoots 180 FPS only holds that speed right off the bow and slows down dramatically fast. So, 180 FPS doesn't translate to an arrow covering 60 yards in a second. Ive hunted for 34 years and have shot many dozen deer with every bow imaginable and have seen "most" of what can happen. The heart ache and disgust a responsible, empathetic hunter feels after wounding an animal isn't worth it. Keep em' close and let them walk until everything is perfect, and even then they will break your heart at times.
bradsmith2010:
ok since this has morphed into what is a good shot at a deer,,I will give my 2 cents,,
I think if I was gonna give advice about how far to shoot,,a good rule of thumb would be,, if you kill and recover every deer you shoot at at 10 to 15 yards,, then extend your range to 20 ,,, and so on,, I agree that longer range shots cant compensate for the speed a deer can get out of the way,, spinning circles etc is a reality that most dont take into consideration when shooting at deer,,,you are not in control of the situation by executing a perfect shot,,the deer has alot to do with what happens after the arrow is released and its a game of inches,,,2 inces to the left you are in the shoulder, and a difficult recover,,,2 inches high you it the back strap above the lungs,, its just not easy,, and closer shots improve your recovery rate,,
the older and more experienced I get,, the closer I like to shoot,, taking as many of the variables out of the situation as possible,, (SH)
DC:
It's amazing how times have changed. Saxton Pope thought nothing of flinging arrows at deer that were up to 100 yds away. He figured that if the arrow hit the deer it was dead.(Don't ask me to prove that, I can't remember what book it was in ;D ;D) I guess he didn't care how long it took.
PEARL DRUMS:
Don, sadly that still happens. You either have empathy for the critters, like every real hunter should, or you don't. Read Ted Nugents "Blood Trails" book and you will read about lots of 40-80 yard shots that hit critters in every conceivable spot. I stopped reading it and tossed it in the garbage can where it belongs.
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