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Hawkdancer:
I think we missed Russell's point of a hypothetical shot perfectly in the heart!  The question was about penetration at that range.  Me, 20 yards is maximum with a bow, and only after a full season of practice, see my earlier comment about the grapefruit.
Hawkdancer

PEARL DRUMS:
We didn't miss it, we just expanded on it. It was the perfect opportunity to teach the young man some things that related to his hypothetical question.

bradsmith2010:
   Hawkdancer,, I think your right,, it kinda went off track,, :) but in a postive way )P(
   DC,, I dont take anything away from those guys back then,, and some game will stand there till the arrow hits them,, but spooky little white tails,, usually dont stand for it,, making a good shot on them very difficult,, shooting at them at long range,, is pretty usless unless you want to loose your arrow,,,
    when guys shot field archery at long range,, I can see why that translated into there hunting at some point,,for me personally,, I wouldnt advise long range shots at game,,,Im not saying it cant be done,,,of course it has,, but in the big picture,, I think its not a good practice,, If I could have a conversation with Pope,, I would just say you are gifted and can pull it off, but most archers can not,, and probably should not do it,,if he insisted that I was wrong,,,,, I would just say ok,, I dont need to be right,, and continue shooting close like I like,,, :NN
   

Bryce:

--- Quote from: DC on November 12, 2019, 12:04:49 pm ---I'm not a hunter but if a deer has an arrow in it's heart I believe it would die no matter what the range. I think you are asking if if it would have enough penetration to make it to the heart at 40yds. Well, I have shot my 40 # bow 255 yds and it stuck eight inches into hard dirt. I'm sure it would have made it to the deer's heart. And I wasn't using a broadhead. These things are very dangerous at any range.

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Well.... I’m not sure that’s the same. At a certain point your arrow slows down and then gravity isn’t working against you anymore. It’ll start to fall, pulling your arrow to its terminal velocity; energy that your bow didn’t give to the arrow.


For that weight of a bow I wouldnt shoot past 30. If your arrow is heavy enough you should be okay, but definitely not ideal... or responsible. I hunt with 75-80# bow and I’ve killed at 40 yards np. I didn’t know it was 40 when I shot bc I’m bad at that sorta thing.  when you have that kind of push behind your point it opens up a lot more opportunities. So do  I take advantage of those super clean 60 yard shots(which I practice at all the time) ... no. I did once, and as soon as I loosed I regretted it immediately the arrow hit exactly where I wanted, complete pass through. But it doesn’t matter bc the further away just increases the odds against you in every way. I’m always advocating heavier weight bows for hunting. Might be overkill but that’s fine bc I want to kill and not having to second guess the physics of it. Sometimes it’s hard to guess range. Whether your in a blind or a stand it’s not a bad idea to mark out the range in your shooting lanes. A quick heal to the dirt or stick in the ground no second guessing required.

bradsmith2010:
  marking a distance is a good Idea if you are in a blind,, something you wont shoot past,,
I usually make a mental note of how far I will shoot,,
if your not in a blind,,you may have to make a judgement call on the spot,, thats part of the challenge,,
I think I have made every mistake there is to make ,, not shooting fast enough,, not waiting long enough,,
letting the deer get to close,,,  shooting to far,,, etc etc etc,,
   every shot is different,, )P(
   

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