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Overweight tiller best approach?
Badger:
--- Quote from: George Tsoukalas on October 16, 2022, 05:24:49 pm ---I don't do videos.
There is info. on my site, however and in several articles I've written.
http://traditionalarchery101.com
But this not my first ballroom dance so you can be sure I've used this method on my bows to help me determine when the stave is ready to be strung..
Just trying to help those just getting started from making the same mistakes I did.
How slack the string is not important. I've said that through out my bow making life and a couple of times above.
Jawge
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George, you say how slack the string is does not make a difference. With your method it is critical. Because you are giving it 10" of pull. Every 1" of slack in your string will make about a 3# difference. If you ignore how far you are actually pulling the bow and just take it to whatever draw length you are looking at on your tiller tree then the slack makes no difference. You can check the weight on your bow at any stage you want simply by checking it the same way you check a braced bow., It does not make much difference if it is braced or not. I can't think of anything that could possibly be easier and less confusing.
George Tsoukalas:
Steve, I said previously in this thread that I pull the t string down to remove slack, mark it, and measure down 10" from there and proceed.
All this method does is determine if the stave is ready to be strung...bending well and around 15# over final target weight.
So with your method how far over final draw weight is your stave before you string it? It should be no more that 20# over.
Jawge
Badger:
George my method just determines the current weight of your bow in progress. I do it from start to finish every time it goes on the tiller tree. I can brace it whenever I choose which is usually between 10 and 15# over weight. If I decide to brace it when I hit target weight at 23" that will put me over about 15#. The most common question new bow makers have is they don't know how strong their bow is, The easiest way to find out is to simply put it on your tiller tree and measure it the same way you would a braced bow. It is more than accurate enough and by far the most accurate way I know of. It cannot get any simpler. You don't need to make allowances for anything. Just pull it down and look at the weight. You ignore how far the limbs are moving and just look at the length of the draw.
George Tsoukalas:
Good, Steve. I am glad it works for you.
My method does the same thing but makes how the stave bends is important too.
A good tiller starts right from the outset.
It is an extension of floor tillering.
Yes, new bowyers don't know when to go to the short string which is why I developed this method.
Jawge
Badger:
George my method has nothing to do with tillering, or anything else. It serves one purpose it tells you what the weight of the bow is. You can use the long string for tillering if you choose to but it is nice to know exactly where you are in the process. That is all it does is tell you what weight your bow is at whatever distance you choose to measure it. When my bows hit target weight at 23 or 24" That is where I usually choose to brace them but you can do whatever a person chooses to. We have more control over the process when we know the weight.
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