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Offline Mad Max

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Elm---more help please
« on: December 09, 2023, 04:01:33 pm »
Haven been on here for a while. >:(

What kind of Elm in my state is good/best for bows, and what is the smallest diameter tree to start with?
North Mississippi

https://regionalgardening.com/elm-trees-in-mississippi/

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Re: Elm
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2023, 06:47:26 pm »
Mark, I've only used winged elm and red elm and both are very good bow woods. I think anything 2" and up would be good for hunting weight bows.
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Re: Elm
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2023, 08:23:09 pm »
Mark, I've only used winged elm and red elm and both are very good bow woods. I think anything 2" and up would be good for hunting weight bows.


There are 3 of the 5 on that link I posted and the 3 say other names red elm also.
Check that link for me please.  ???
I printed the tree pictures and info to help me find the correct ones.
Thanks Pat :)
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Offline bassman211

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Re: Elm
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2023, 08:28:24 pm »
Never used anything ,but good clean  American elm, so nothing to compare it to. It worked fine for me.

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« Reply #4 on: December 10, 2023, 01:48:00 am »
Mark, I don't know if the red elm I used was one of those three red elms. The stave was given to me.
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Re: Elm
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2023, 08:32:24 am »
 :o ??? ::) :P :fp
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« Reply #6 on: December 10, 2023, 02:11:31 pm »
Red elm has been used in a lot of laminated glass bows with good results. My Treadway bow has red elm back and belly, under glass. Maybe ask other glass bow builders which red elm they have used. The only real way to tell which one it is is with the botanical names.
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« Reply #7 on: December 10, 2023, 07:30:26 pm »
Ok
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Re: Elm
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2023, 05:25:42 pm »
We have a few elm varieties here in west KY. But the winged variety is my obvious choice because it is easy to identify, almost unsplitable and grows like a weed. I saw a stave with  a chainsaw, then make any design I want without much concern for grain run out. It just isn't much of a concern.
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Re: Elm
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2023, 03:55:03 pm »
White/American   
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Re: Elm
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2023, 07:02:30 pm »
Thanks guy's :)

Winged elm it is
sealed the ends with glue
Looks like sapwood and heart wood, is it good out to the bark?
1st log--12" on the small end 15"on the other



2nd log we cut it for a few billets.


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Re: Elm
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2023, 09:47:00 pm »
Sapwood is all I ever used, right under the bark.
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Re: Elm
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2023, 10:21:50 pm »
Thanks pat :D
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Re: Elm
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2023, 09:16:36 am »
Like Pat Sap wood is all I ever use, good looking log, that should make a fine bow. :) don't work it down to close until it has time to dry a bit or clamp it to something as it dries, it will tend to twist and warp if to close to bow size if you don't clamp it to a board or form.  ;)

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Re: Elm
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2023, 09:20:14 am »
 :OK
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