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Looking for a 400 yard shot
Badger:
Most broadhead arrows are going to be pretty close to the proper spine. A 200-grain arrow can lose a big portion of its speed in the first 10 ft of the shot if the spine is not near perfect. The arrow has to come out of the bow straight and remain straight. Everyone talks about faster bows when they think of flight shooting. Any well-made bow can break any existing flight record with the right arrow. None of us were tuning our arrows. We just make up some arrows and hope for the best. English longbows are not particularly fast with light arrows, yet Josef shot 530 yards while practicing with an 88# bow. That gives us some idea what the potential is. If you look at the modern American longbow and all of the primitive records, none of them are anywhere near what they should be if a properly tuned arrow was paired with a fast bow. What they have in common is less-than-optimal wood arrows. In defense of my own history in the broadhead division the rule changes on fletching and arrow weight changes erased all the history of broadhead.
willie:
--- Quote from: Badger on October 04, 2025, 01:21:01 pm --- A 200-grain arrow can lose a big portion of its speed in the first 10 ft of the shot if the spine is not near perfect. The arrow has to come out of the bow straight and remain straight.
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so if a lighter arrow is harder to launch without wobbles, then it becomes more important than ever to have an arrow design that tends to dampen its wobbles rather than flexing back and forth too long. could reducing mass in the ends of the arrows help reduce the flexing?
Badger:
Almost every record I can think of recently that was broken using a wood arrow was broken with an arrow thought to be far too weak. Coming out sideways is what I think kills the arrow, not the flexing.
willie:
--- Quote from: Badger on October 04, 2025, 04:50:05 pm --- Coming out sideways is what I think kills the arrow, not the flexing.
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But it comes out sideways because it is too weak? maybe I am missing something or are you saying it is all in the release of the archer?
Badger:
Of course, the release and the knocking point are very important. But I am also saying that the spine is critical, and if an arrow is too stiff or too weak, it won't come out of the bow straight. A correct spine is important. Ivar Malde is probably the best authority on arrows and set up right now, he is at least the most knowledgeable one willing the share information. This past year, there were some big achievements with wood arrows, and I think it won't be long before that filters down into the primitive wood classes.
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