Looking for a 400 yard shot

[bassman211]

Saxon Pope in his book shot an Ishi arrow that he said  shot the best of all the arrows tested  for distance. He said it weighed right around an ounce. The best yardage he got from a bunch of different aboriginal bows that he shot was 287 yds. out of an 80 lb. bow. Other shorter plains sinew backed bows shot the arrow between 90, and 150 yds. Ishi made a 45lb. sinew backed yew bow that at 45 lbs.  shot that arrow at 202 yds. Not as good as you flight guys are shooting arrows now, but impressive for his time comparatively. A one ounce arrow is 437.5 grains. Made from bamboo it would have been tapered at the nock end. Fun book to read.

[bassman211]

I took 4 cedar shafts cut to 24 inches with barrel tapers that were 220 to 230 grs. Tried to get the taper as close as I could to even from the middle. Took a long time to make the arrows.Bone tips, and small fletching. I took a  35lb sinew backed Osage bow 50 inches long to test the arrows. Not knowing what I was doing I shot the first arrow bow combo at my target bag at 10 yds. The arrow hit the bag side ways, and broke. It showed really weak. I cut the same length type of arrow to 21 inches from both ends , and tried again with the same results. I quit right there. I have 2 arrows left. and would sure like to shoot them for distance. To you flight shooters how do I do that?

[Badger]

I took 4 cedar shafts cut to 24 inches with barrel tapers that were 220 to 230 grs. Tried to get the taper as close as I could to even from the middle. Took a long time to make the arrows.Bone tips, and small fletching. I took a  35lb sinew backed Osage bow 50 inches long to test the arrows. Not knowing what I was doing I shot the first arrow bow combo at my target bag at 10 yds. The arrow hit the bag side ways, and broke. It showed really weak. I cut the same length type of arrow to 21 inches from both ends , and tried again with the same results. I quit right there. I have 2 arrows left. and would sure like to shoot them for distance. To you flight shooters how do I do that?

Even if the arrow showed weak according to your shot, I would bet money it was too stiff. If an arrow is way off it can go either way. For a 35# bow a good starting point for spine on a flight arrow would be about 1 1/4" deflection measured on 22" centers with a 2# weight.

[bassman211]

Thanks Badger that is the answer I was looking for.

[sleek]

I took 4 cedar shafts cut to 24 inches with barrel tapers that were 220 to 230 grs. Tried to get the taper as close as I could to even from the middle. Took a long time to make the arrows.Bone tips, and small fletching. I took a  35lb sinew backed Osage bow 50 inches long to test the arrows. Not knowing what I was doing I shot the first arrow bow combo at my target bag at 10 yds. The arrow hit the bag side ways, and broke. It showed really weak. I cut the same length type of arrow to 21 inches from both ends , and tried again with the same results. I quit right there. I have 2 arrows left. and would sure like to shoot them for distance. To you flight shooters how do I do that?

Even if the arrow showed weak according to your shot, I would bet money it was too stiff. If an arrow is way off it can go either way. For a 35# bow a good starting point for spine on a flight arrow would be about 1 1/4" deflection measured on 22" centers with a 2# weight.

Send me your address, I will send you an arrow you can copy and test. I will warn you, I never had one survive being shot into a target. They have too much energy. Your arrow rest and arrow pass thickness and height makes a big difference in flight as well as your release. Best way to test is to set up a slow motion camera behind you, and shoot the arrow in a field, shoot through a chrono out there as well for additional data.

[bassman211]

Sleek I said I didn't know what I was doing, and I was right. Thank you for the advice, and for the offer. Those arrows take time to build, so I Really APPRECIATE it.