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Online Robert Pougnier

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Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« on: January 25, 2026, 07:30:12 pm »
A few years ago I harvested an unusually straight and knot free apple log from a tree we were removing at a field edge at the farm. I've read about using apple and other fruit trees for bows and heard that apple is good in compression. But I have not really seen any photos of an apple self bow so I had a bit of ambivalence.

The stave I was able to get from it only has a couple knots and mild propeller twist on one limb, nothing worth correcting. I had not felt comfortable approaching it until a couple weeks ago, when I made the decision I would build it with a rawhide backing for an extra margin of safety.

I kept the limbs on the longer and wider side and the belly very flat.
Specs are: 54# at 27 inches. Length is 69 1/4" total, 68 1/2" ntn. 27.3 oz mass (including backing, handle wrap and string)
Limbs are symmetric: 1 7/8" wide at the fades tapered mildly to midlimb at 1 5/8". I tapered the outer limb fairly even down to 3/8" nocks. 8 inch stiff handle.
I kept the outer third of the limb fairly stiff. The top limb, seen at right, has the mild propeller twist so it appears stiffer.


The backing is very thin, maybe 0.2-0.3 mm deer hide, glued on with tb3 wood glue. It was added after bringing the bow to 45# at 22" on the tillering tree.
String is 16 strand b55 dacron with muskrat silencers. Tips are overlayed with horn. Arrow shelf is built up leather and pass is soft velcro.
Finish is shellac tinted with burnt sienna and red ochre for the rawhide, clear shellac on the belly. And spirit varnish and paste wax once it cured.

I originally was going to heat treat the limbs but they took very little set during tillering and since this bow is new territory I tried to be a little conservative.

Total set is 1 inch after shooting and unstringing, down to 1/4" an hour later. It's a fast shooter for sure and very stable. There is not any real hand shock even though the outer limbs are not bending.
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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 28"
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2026, 07:32:42 pm »
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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 28"
« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2026, 07:33:54 pm »
++Pics

Thanks for looking!

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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2026, 08:59:35 pm »
Handle detail and signature

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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2026, 11:07:49 pm »
First off, thays a fantastic job on an unusual wood. I ran your dimensions through my calculator and without knowing the exact specific gravity of the wood I went for .71 ( the average ) and came up with .48 inches of set if the wood is air dried. Apple can actually approach osage in density or be down closer to hickory so it has a wide swing. At the average of .71 your bow should take .48 inches of set. Considering you have 1 inch and assuming your tiller is perfect and the wood is dry, the density is likely .63. Do you have any off cuts of that wood to test?
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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2026, 11:30:53 pm »
Thanks Sleek! I was pretty apprehensive at first but it's turned out to be nice.
That's really cool that you can run those numbers. I'm sure I have a piece somewhere, I definitely trimmed it. I'll find it in the morning and see if I can cut out a one inch block and get the SG for you.
I can promise the tiller is not perfect so I'm sure I did not max out it's potential. It did surprise me in that it felt similar to some hard maple under the scraper. It dents a bit easier than expected. But the wood sure is pretty.
But I'll see if I can get find a chunk tomorrow, I'd love to know.

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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2026, 11:53:33 pm »
Yes very nicely done.  Nice bend. 
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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Reply #7 on: Today at 10:11:43 am »
Nice job, beautiful bow. :)
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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Reply #8 on: Today at 10:31:45 am »
That turned out very nice. For working with wood that has very limited information out there, and no personal past experience with, you did a great job finding a bow in it. Great looking bend.

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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Reply #9 on: Today at 01:00:41 pm »
Very nice apple wood bow, Robert.  :OK
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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Reply #10 on: Today at 02:19:12 pm »
This is a very nice bow! I have a few apple staves, and making an apple bow is on my to-do list. This bow reminds me of the Simson apple bow, Tutti Frutti: https://primitive-bows.com/86-apple-flatbow-tutti-frutti-7028-no-86/

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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Reply #11 on: Today at 02:46:47 pm »
Thank you everyone!

I like the tutti frutti bow, and really like the cherry bark handle. Thanks for sharing I haven't seen other apple bow photos until now, that one has some nice character.

I found the only cutoff I could get from the stave. It won't make a cubic inch, it's 1x1 3/8"x5/8". Can I still get a SG number using this little piece?

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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Reply #12 on: Today at 03:40:14 pm »
Yes I can use any dimension, just make the measurements accurate How many grains does it weigh?
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Re: Apple Flatbow 54# @ 27"
« Reply #13 on: Today at 03:58:13 pm »
I was able to do the math. I came up with about .75SG Set might be closer to 3/4 inch than a actual full inch but in either case I can always try better next time!

Here are the numbers and you can let me know if you come out with something different. I'll give you the volume found by measuring all twelve side in mm.
V=11.46cm (cubed)
MC: it's been stored at 65 degrees f and 40% RH. So it should be around 7.5%
Weight in grains is 146.5gn
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