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Offline WhistlingBadger

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pine rosin questions
« on: February 04, 2026, 09:50:52 pm »
Got some nice, dry pine rosiin.  Need to melt it.  Anybody have any good ways to do it?  Is a double boiler hot enough to liquify it?

Once it's liquefied, what's a good ratio for rosin/beeswax/lard for waterproofing a bow?

How much beeswax do you add for pitch glue?
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Online Pat B

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Re: pine rosin questions
« Reply #1 on: Today at 01:00:55 am »
You have to be very careful about rendering pine pitch. It is very volatile and can burst into flame if it gets too hot. It's best to do this outside for safety sake. That said, I use a veg can on my wood stove. I do watch it closely and remove it from the hot surface before it gets too hot. Also, it will give off a heavy pine scent that might be offensive to other inhabitants. Outside it shouldn't matter.
 I think a double boiler might not get hot enough to melt the pitch but it might be hot enough to keep it liquid as you are blending the other ingredients.
 I've never used a recipe but just add enough bees wax to make the pitch less brittle, maybe 2/1 pitch/beeswax. I use finely ground charcoal and again enough to give the mixture body. That you will have to play with. This is what I use for hafting points and blades. For a bow finish you probably want more wax and/or lard, maybe equal parts of each. It needs to be more of a paste than a glue.
 I also make a pitch varnish for waterproofing sinew wraps on arrows. I dissolve the hard pitch in denatured alcohol. A pint size canning jar works well. Just add the pitch and cover it with the alcohol and give it a day or two to dissolve. If you keep the lid on the jar it will keep indefinitely. If it thickens you and always add more alcohol.
 

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Offline Aaron1726

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Re: pine rosin questions
« Reply #2 on: Today at 01:26:00 am »
+1 on everything Pat said. 

I use a small stainless pot, its actually a 1 cup measure I think, but I heat it slowly over my heat gun which stands up to blow hot air vertically.  Like Pat said, go slow, it will burst into flames quickly if you let it.  Afterwards I pour it into a silicone mold meant for candy, this gives me nice "ingots" to work with: http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,72556.0.html

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Re: pine rosin questions
« Reply #3 on: Today at 09:50:46 am »
I do about the same as Pat, I usually make it for glue so as I mix I just drip a little out on a sheet of paper, let it cool, then bend the paper, if it breaks I add a little more wax, if it is still sticky I add a little more charcoal, to use to seal a bow I would guess a little more wax but as said you just have to play with it until you get it where you want it, also as said be careful and out side is best I think for safety sake.  :)
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Re: pine rosin questions
« Reply #4 on: Today at 02:03:31 pm »
I also do like Pat. I just keep my pitch in a plastic zip lock bag. I mix my pitch and bees wax in an old tin can I melt over my heat gun. I usually don’t mix a big batch. I use a small wood dowel to stir and apply my melted glue to my arrow shafts or knife handles. Sometimes if I have a bigger batch I will let it cool a little and when it gets just the right consistency I will roll my stick in it and get a nice blob on the end of my stick to store it. I haven’t used for sealing bow.

I do seem to remember watching Marc St Louis heat treatment video and I think he just dabbed pitch on belly of bow as he heat treated it. I’m it positive I remember that correctly and it probably isn’t an option for you. It does help the pitch glue to adhere by warming points and wood when halfting them

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