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Offline jameswoodmot

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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2026, 07:38:30 pm »
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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2026, 07:40:40 pm »
https://youtu.be/pkwQtE0lJc8?si=N4_WEil6rtC0Tmry

Video of me shooting it at 22” and a little sneak peak of the bark. That’s enough typing and picture uploading for this evening


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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2026, 08:12:03 pm »
Yes!  Sweet little bow James.   Tiller looks pretty good to me.  You have lots of bend thru the handle but being such a short little bow that what I would have done also.  Your working limb is probably similar to mine actually given that I incorporated semi static tip recurves to concentrate my working limb little more on the middle.  Your reflex recovery seems good too. Seems pretty snappy little bow.  Well done on your sinew and this bow.  Speeds are very good. 
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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #33 on: March 02, 2026, 10:40:57 am »
Awesome work man! You've been tackling lots of cool projects and taking them head-on, really inspiring me over here!

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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #34 on: March 03, 2026, 08:37:38 am »
Shooting this bow in that video there was moisture on the target, my arrows got damp, my hand got wet then my bow got sticky. I was thinking about leaving it bare but thats not an option in this climate.

No snakes round here and skins are not cheap, I only have thick rawhide and shaving it down seems silly. The only rawhide i can but thats thin enouh is double the price of snake skins. I've got some cherry and silver birch bark though.

The birch bark is very thick, 2mm+ and very dry. I got if for making knife handles and its in A5 size pieces and all from different trees. It took a good couple of hours to work out what to do with it. Its colour and texture varied so much ands its properties varied too. I've seen video of people just peeling the layers apart as easily as peeling that plastic cover off of screens but this bark is not that bark.
I tried soaking it hot water which helped a lot, boiling water was better. Some pieces just wouldnt sperate, it was just tear accross layers and split and just be awful, i didnt persever with these pieces. A couple of pieces just fell apart into layers like ive seen before. Some piece tore on the black lines, or left layers behind as i passed some and the couple of nice pieces the black lines made no difference.
Some pieces would only sperate in one place, others were like the pages of a book at the edges. I didnt manage to work with a piece wider than 2" and mosrt were about 1" wide.

The main take away is that not all bark is the same and dont bother if it isnt easy, unfortunaly as i dont know the living conditions of the trees this came from i dont know what to look for in the future. I suspect the colder the climate and younger the tree the easier it is to work with.

I used thick hide glue to glue it on, my thinking being it would tack up harder and hold the bark in place as i worked along. The bark varied in colour so i started with the paler stuff in the middle and moved to darker towards the tips, trying to not have it look stripy. Another factor is that as i didnt have much choise about how thin the strips were i didnt want a thick one nect to a thin one. Thinnest
being one or two layers (thinner than paper) and the thickest being maybe 0.3mm at a guess.

It was very slow going, i was cutting the pieces on three or four sides one at a time, it would have been SO much esier if i just had bark from one tree that was all similar enough and large pieces that i could just slice strips off and glue them on. I didnt have a double boiler i could use where i was working so i kept having to stop and reheat the glue.

I sized the belly as i went and stuck the strips around so i could trim them back. Also it took so long to apply the strips i was having to trim the earlier strips as i went as the glue was drying. An advantage to getting glue on my fingers is i could use the stick to pull the strips tight around the back of the bow and hold them when the glue tacked.

Once it was all covered I trimmed the sides back most of the way leaving a little bit of spare, bushed water over the whole thing, covered it in cling wrap (seran wrap?), wrapped it as tight as i could in self adhesive bandage and then cokked the heck out of it with a hair dryer. Then left it to cool down and removed the wraps so it could dry.

Getting the tips done was just a bit of a faff, it was just a case putting a piece of bark on, cling wrap, hair dryer, wrap and bandage or string and let it set and then put the next piece on. Theres a piece front and back and then a small strip over the end. I could design the tips better to make this easier. Also the heat from the hair dryer softens the bark as well as the glue so it shapes better. cling wrap was good as i could see if the bark was shifting as i applied pressure. There is also sinew wrap under the knocks which made this more difficult

It was a little lumpy so i burnished it which helped blend some of the joints. I then lightly sanded at 600 grit which took care of a couple of edges but id not reccomend that tbh as it changes the looks of the bark.

When the glue is tacky still you can run a knife along the edge of it and just peel off the excess, this was way easier than I expected. As the bark was thicker than i wanted I sanded at 600 grit and then burnished this edge so it didnt catch. I can see the bark delaminating if it got caught on something.

The grip is pig skin lining leather (short on braintan round here) and bark tan rabbit. Its my first rabbit skin and i didnt want to cut it right up the middle to get the best furr as the rest of the hide wuld be less usefull so i took the furr from one of the back legs, It doesnt match up that great and i though the direction of the hair would be less important but its ok if you dont look too hard.

Couple of coats of tru oil.

Now im waiting for the last of the moisture from the bark gluing to leave and i'll string it back up and get some full draw pics.

Pics incoming
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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #35 on: March 03, 2026, 08:40:18 am »
The bark I started with and the kind of strips I was working with

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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #36 on: March 03, 2026, 08:45:02 am »
Getting the strips on, trimming the edges (you can see the glue dried too much)

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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #37 on: March 03, 2026, 08:48:20 am »
Wetting the bow, wrapping and heating and unwrapping. Putting all that moisture and heat into it it seemed like it was worth stringing it backwards. Don’t think it was necessary

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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #38 on: March 03, 2026, 08:50:59 am »
This first strips I put on, you can see how different the thickness is, there are under the grip though.

A photo to show the colour gradient

And how I wrapped the tip pieces. There was cling wrap under there

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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #39 on: March 03, 2026, 08:56:53 am »
And here she is

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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #40 on: March 03, 2026, 09:01:54 am »
Can’t thank you enough for all your help and the the videos and everything Dave, this isn’t just my favourite bow but one of the best things I’ve ever made and I’ve made a LOT of stuff! Super proud of this one and it turned out even better than I had hoped! I’ll get some full draw pics of hen it’s dry.

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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #41 on: March 04, 2026, 12:48:55 pm »
It seemed to have stopped loosing weight, I just strung and shot it and it’s lost about 3lbs of draw weight and just felt a bit sloppy and had a lot of string follow compared to before. I assume it’s not stopped losing moisture.

I’ve strung it backwards and put it back on the radiator.

Have I likely caused permanent set or is it likely to regain its reflex and hold it? It’s lost 5 grams in water since putting the bark on.
Is the fact that it was warm off the radiator likely to cause this, I’m reading mixed answers about if heat impacts sinew of its it’s just moisture.

Kicking myself, it seemed to not have lost any weight for a day I thought it was good to go.
Won’t touch if for at least a week now. And see if it was just a temporary slowing of moisture loss

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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #42 on: March 04, 2026, 01:29:34 pm »
It seemed to have stopped loosing weight, I just strung and shot it and it’s lost about 3lbs of draw weight and just felt a bit sloppy and had a lot of string follow compared to before. I assume it’s not stopped losing moisture.

I’ve strung it backwards and put it back on the radiator.

Have I likely caused permanent set or is it likely to regain its reflex and hold it? It’s lost 5 grams in water since putting the bark on.
Is the fact that it was warm off the radiator likely to cause this, I’m reading mixed answers about if heat impacts sinew of its it’s just moisture.

Kicking myself, it seemed to not have lost any weight for a day I thought it was good to go.
Won’t touch if for at least a week now. And see if it was just a temporary slowing of moisture loss


Sorry man.  I got busy here.  Just seeing this now.  Wonderfully done btw.   I would say you are fine with this bow as far as set goes.  I would let it sit for a week or two after using hide glue to adhere your bark.   That’s just my opinion on that.  Moisture will find a way into the sinew again that’s for certain.  I did the same as you before and was watching weight loss to a point and noticed less draw and string follow.  This is just moisture crept into sinew and wood.   It will take more time to get rid of moisture now then before as you have covered it trapping it in so to speak.  Do not fret.  Your sinew was done well and it will recover just fine.  Just give it a couple weeks to sit.  You can back string if you like but it will just settle in where it wants to when it’s ready.   Waiting is the hard part.   lol.   Been there and it sucks.   As for the birch bark.  Ya it’s hard to get consistent pieces.  I don’t use the thicker pieces. If I can’t get it at least as thin as paper or thinner I put it aside.  I make sure I have enough thin stock before proceeding.  I boil mine for a half hour and let it sit in the warm water for awhile too I split them apart carefully obviously but easier said then done.  As you mentioned I use younger trees.  I find the older trees are more inconsistent results.  The last one I did I made a tracing stencil to cut my desired shapes which were angled rectangles.  I established a center line on the bow first.  I didn’t post a detailed process for this as it’s very tedious.  It took me 3 days to get mine done!  It’s kind of one of those things that when you start it you are committing to a lot of pain! lol.  All worth it in the end.  Be proud of this bow brother.  Take the things you learned from this one to the next.  Btw another covering option that’s very thin is goat skin parchment.  I’ve used this material and it’s one of my favourites.  You can stain it, paint it or decorate it the way you like.   It adds very little weight.  I order mine on Etsy by the full hide.   


Here’s a couple pics of what I use here.  Younger trees limbs.  As you can see I’ve cut down the length and can then separate it into 5-6 paper thin layers.  This is pretty ideal scenario however.  We have lots of this here in Canada.

https://share.icloud.com/photos/0b14Us6UZ1zRwVkVbkUDkzgIg

« Last Edit: March 04, 2026, 02:00:24 pm by superdav95 »
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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2026, 10:41:23 am »
Not at all no need to apologise. Panic over I’ve left it on the radiator and I’ve got away for a week so that should stop me messing with it!

That’s great thanks for the pics, do you know what kind of birch it is?im off to hunt for some now!

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Re: Hold my hand when I sinew my first bow
« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2026, 12:36:25 pm »
It’s called white birch or paper birch up here.  It’s quite white on the outer layer and peels off easily.   Depending on the look you want you can mix up the tones as you sort through your stack.  The bigger trees have bigger dark streaks than the smaller tree.  The last one I did I used an older tree that my neighbour had cut down. 
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