Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: blackhawk on January 30, 2015, 08:35:00 pm
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Disclaimer: This goes against everything I preach about this wood. If you wanna call me a hypocrite go right ahead.
After all the hooplah on pearlys thread it gave me enough kick in my butt to try something I've wanted to try for the last few years. Seeing and shooting Josh's(Gun Doc) unbacked anomaly a couple years ago has always made me ponder if I could pull one off unbacked. I've always had a good stock of high ring count n decently clean,but just never had the balls to try one. So Wednesday eve I grabbed a stave out of the shed and ripped the bark off to see what I had. I decided to decrown it down perfectly flat giving me ~1/2" of sapwood. I then sealed the back and called it a night to ponder on layout and if I really wanted to go thru with this stupid idea. The next morning I consulted with Josh to help me make a decision about it as he has made a few unbacked. Well tonight i layed it out,cut it out,and took it down to floor tiller where I stopped this eve. Wish me luck
Here's stave after it was decrowned
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Here's a close up of the decrowned back.
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Side profile after belly reduction,and into floor tiller.
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The belly showing its ERC...it should have some purple red left IF it gets to shooting.
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What the heck am I thinking!!!!! I'm prob about to embarrass myself in front of everybody...lol. At least this might show that we all break em. ;)
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oh boy!
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You got a bunch of sapwood there still! What are you hoping for from this experiment? (poundage, draw length, what's the ntn, etc)
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Atta boy ;)
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Don't do it! She's too pretty to die! :o
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Get it man!!
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Paul did u realize that was your 911th post...how ironic.."someone call 911"....lol :laugh:
Chadwick its almost 71" long total. Shooting for around mid 40's at 28" or so.
Springbuck I'm aok with it breaking if it does. Its just wood,and theres plenty more in my basement,and out in the woods ;)
I'll try Bruce... Sometimes the wood says no tho. ;)
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Chris,
How about adding just a tad bit of reflex to the stave? is this a ridicules thought? making the belly use its compression strength.
DBar
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Is this stave from a limb?
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Is this stave from a limb?
Kinda my thoughts ...............adding a bit of reflex if it's not.
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Time for the popcorn and adult beverage of choice
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Bill I'm about at that stage and currently pondering to do any heat to it. One limb is a teeny hair reflex, and the other with those whoopty dos has about 1/4"-3/8" of deflex/follow. And I'm OK if it ended up following the string no more than 2". I'm pretty sure I could manage that without heat,so I'm still undecided. If I did put heat to it,it wood just be a bit more reflex and correct it some evening it out a lil more.
Falcon I believe this is from a trunk. I got this in a trade a couple years ago at the first moontree gathering from Wapiti(Joe). It has around 40 RPI. Were gonna test that theory on what some say that trunk wood isn't good for unbacked bows.
Sit back n enjoy the show bub ;)
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Time for the popcorn and adult beverage of choice
Bubby pop some corn for me............... I'll be watch'n this one until it bends.....or.....busts? :D
DBar
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Chris ....... what ever you do, I'm taking notes. :) ;)
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Cheering you on man! Back flat and belly rounded - you can do it!
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I have faith in ya! I'm looking forward to the F/D pic. Brilliant job of decrowning it BTW! Josh
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You just couldn't leave this one alone could you BH :D (http://rabbittalk.com/images/smilies/canofworms.gif)
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TRUNK!!!!!!!!!!!! Have you not heard that trunk wood goes boom...... ::)
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Hey Chris, its just good to see you doing anything! Been a while. ;)
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I know squat about erc, never worked with it but I'm interested in seeing how this goes. I admire your spunk Chris, you sure aren't afraid to jump all in on a win or lose project. :)
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I like these threads :). Can't wait
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Chris, you beat me to it. I also have a build along in the works. I'm gathering pictures. I went for a linen backed ERC. I was debating on what to do about the back also. But I went with my gut( and easy of construction)I will be posting mine in some time next week in the Build along section)
I've only built 3 ERC bows. All are from trunks. Two were unbacked but only ended up around 38-40# (i was new to bow making). I built an raw hide backed ELB at 50# and took it out one cold day and BOOM! ( but after looking at pictures of FD I could see that my tiller was off, so that was my fault ::))
I know you can do it. And I will be watching, cause I have plenty of the stuff.
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I hope it holds together !!! 8)
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What width taper are you going for? Personally I'd go for a pyramid, crowned belly and flat back. Pyramid taper should hopefully make it a shade easier to get even stress everywhere. Wish I had a piece of that stuff....it's beautiful wood.
You've got it 8)
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Thanks Chris. I thought this thing had about run it's coarse and I was going to have to go this alone without much historical data. Looks like the R&D is picking up. I know my next bow after the sassafras will be some summer cut hickory but I am going to have some ERC curing as well. Maybe I can find a good size limb. Good luck and full speed ahead.
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Best of luck Hawk ! I'm rooting for You - Bob.
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I'm confident it'll hold up nicely... :laugh:
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Looks to be an interesting thread. Best of luck to you.
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Thanks for all the replies folks. :)
I have a sneeky suspicion that this came from the tension side of the tree...after I cut it out it relieved its self of some stresses and moved a little towards reflex...and then overnight it moved another 1/4" or so towards reflexing. Now it also prob has some moisture to lose at it was a full sized stave with its bark on,and stored out in a shed. I weighed it and recorded its weight last night,and when I go down to the shop later today I'll know just how wet it is/was by how much weight it lost. If I think its too wet I'll even up and reduce the tiller some and let it set a week or so.
Mike I didn't quite have enough width IMO to make a pyramid with it...so right now its at a overbuilt flatbow profile...i started it out as wide as I could knowing I can remove wood later if need be.
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Here's a front profile pic...forgot to include one last night.
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I've been thinking on this quite a bit this week. There's been quite a bit of supposition and assumptions thrown out about ERC and no one has done more of it than myself. I have had no luck with trunkwood and yet many others have made fine bows from it. Heartwood showing on the back as always spelled disaster for a selfbow in my experience. However, someone mentions that another made selfbows using only heartwood. There are many, many contradictory reports of what works and what doesn't. I've decided to setup a little more controlled experimentation. I intend to cut samples of limbs and trunks from in the open Sun light, shelter belts and from under canopy. Cut 30 samples each and keep accurate records of growing condition, RPI and any other pertinent information. The plan is divide each sample group into thirds. One third will be untouched sapwood back, one third decrowned back, and the last bit heartwood backed. I'll cut them all the same day and store them the same way to season. When seasoned I'll start the testing procedures(sort of like the slat bending test) and record my findings. I've built quite a few ERC selfbows and blew up a lot of attempts, but it occurs to me that even at that, it's not enough experience to be telling others how to go about it. When I learn more I will share my findings. I apologize if I've led anyone a stray. Josh
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Dagnabbit! I meant to put this on Pearly's thread. Sorry bout that Chris. :-[ Josh
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Copy n paste Josh ;) ...no worries ya put it here.
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Looking forward to seeing how it turns out. Looks sweet so far!
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Dagnabbit! I meant to put this on Pearly's thread. Sorry bout that Chris. :-[ Josh
Right now there's so many erc posts it's easy to look in the wrong one
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My assumption that it had a lil bit of moisture to lose was correct. It lost 3/10's of an ounce in 13 hours after reduction. So I evened up the tiller losing another 1.1 ounces in the process,and I'll let it sit for a few days or a week to be close to stabilized. Another note is that it gained a teeny bit more reflex,and it is actually reflexed by a 1/4". So I might not do much if any heat to it if I don't have to. I'd like to keep the build as simple as possible and leave out as much possible "contaminations" as I can.
Here's the lower limbs floor tiller.
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So far so good
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I have faith in you Chris. ;) :)
Pappy
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This is great, Chris! I'll be watching, for sure!
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About time someone does an ERC build that knows what they are doing:)
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About time someone does an ERC build that knows what they are doing:)
I agree Roy
and I know it ain't me
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No isn't you.. There is some guy out there in central Michigan that tries to make ERC bows. I think he goes by Pearl Dumb, or something like that.. :)
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I think I may have heard of him before
Not sure where right now
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I have three juniper selfbows two of them are all heartwood. If I can do it you should be able to knock it out of the park
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Alright Newindian. I have to see them. especially the heartwood ones. Now we are getting somewhere.
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Lol Roy n Guy :laugh:
The mass weight was looking a lil too heavy after it settled down from some weight loss(moisture). So I took some material off the width to ~ 1 7/8" wide right now. Then I took a sanding block and sanded the back baby butt smooth. Fine tuned the floor tiller a little more,and that all took off 2.5 ounces where its getting close to be ready for overlays and a low brace. Its almost game time. Not sure if I'll work on it anymore today? ???
It also reflexed its self a little more giving me an inch of reflex. As long as I don't have to correct any string alignment I'll be leaving this one heat free.
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Lol Roy n Guy :laugh:
The mass weight was looking a lil too heavy after it settled down from some weight loss(moisture). So I took some material off the width to ~ 1 7/8" wide right now. Then I took a sanding block and sanded the back baby butt smooth. Fine tuned the floor tiller a little more,and that all took off 2.5 ounces where its getting close to be ready for overlays and a low brace. Its almost game time. Not sure if I'll work on it anymore today? ???
I would be more inclined to make an ERC bow narrow with a shallow D section. Should be interesting to see how wide works
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I saw this post and immediately wondered if it was one of those I sent back with you. I have a sister or two to it still. Good luck with it! I have one roughed out but haven't touched it in a year..
Looking good so far!
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Don't forget to caress her softly and gently sing to her before putting her to bed for the night. >:D :laugh:
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Watching with interest.
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You burnish that back?
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Chris your a helluva bowyer and if anyone can do it you can. Waiting with baited breath. I've kind of wanted to do an ERC bow but haven't tried it yet.
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Hey there Chris el mal, you got this bad boy flingin arrows yet? :laugh: Josh
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how goes the battle???
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I haven't had any time to work on it lately...hopefully this week I'll get some time before the next arctic blast hits...its been a crazy cold stormy winter here out east...if I don't get to the shooting stage before this next cold blast hits I'll be having to wait till it warms back up some again. I have been checking the weight everyday,and it is stabilized now and has stayed the same weight the last 4 days.
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What no bow yet ?!
letting a little weather get in the way, you ain't old enough for thay yet :laugh: :laugh:
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slapped on some overlays and got it low braced..i first had it braced at 3",and I had to take some scrapes and sands on the bottom limb to even up a little ,and left the upper limb alone...then once it was evened up I bumped the brace up to 4" here as you see it...and ive been exercising it now out to 15"....looking pretty good
heres 4" brace
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a lil tugging
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unbraced ten minutes after unstringing
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Profile looks great ! Ya need to get a fullface helmet, so You don't have to hold that hand up like that Chris >:D. Bob
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Someone get him one of those black Michelin man bomb tech outfits, STAT!
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Im watchin intently...looks great so far👍...if you pull this off we might hafta re-evaluate the whole 'good Chris, bad Chris' dichotemy....jes sayin....wheres Pearly? Lol... Brian
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Lets shoot that thing times a waisting!
Looking good
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I think you should get a cup and a face shield and yank it back to 28" ;D
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Looking good. My fingers are crossed that your eyes don't end up that way. :o
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I can't wait for this one. You are doing a great job, (of course). But don't be to timid, Pearl Drums made a great point in a conversation I had with him, if your scared of it it will lead to twitchy, short drawn shots. I agree with him on that issues. On my last ERC build was a little scared of all the Boom talk, and I ended up under weight. B the way thanks for taking the time to do this, and in front of everybody at that.
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I don't think bad chris is worried about a bow breaking at draw guys
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I think you should get a cup and a face shield and yank it back to 28" ;D
:)
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Lol guys :laugh:
Yeah i ain't skeered .....YET!!!! I won't be flinchy till I'm out past 20" ;D
Hopefully tonight I'll get some more time on it. I'll reduce my outer third width now that I know where the string is tracking,then shave a wee bit more off the whole width of it,and narrow n reduce some wood at the handle area. Then I'll string her back up and start tillering it some more. I won't do it all at once. Prob take it to 20" or so with lots of exercise,and then let her rest again until the next time.
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Pearl Dumbs never got that far:)
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Tiller on top limb is looking lovely... bottom limb still pretty stiff. Looking good so far!
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Disclaimer.... if that thing blows and an injury results.. I have no idea where you got that junky ERC... Seems like I saw some other guy unloading a truckbed full of it... :D
Looking great so far!
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reduced the outers....shaved the width further down to 1 3/4"....narrowed/rounded the handle a lil more...and strung her up again tonight...its at a 5" brace and im tillered out to 37@22" right now...almost there...didn't wanna be pulling it any further until I knew my tiller was spot on...looks food to me....next time I shave a lil more around the handle and start exercising her further as its not quite up to my intended weight yet...gotta be nice and easy with this stuff...right now it weighs 20.5 ounces,so im looking good enough there albeit a lil on the heavy side(but that's ok and means im slightly over built)
tiller shots from both ways...and ten minutes after unstringing...so far so good :-X
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Bottom shorter?
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Nope....just an illusion
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Bigtime
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I see a lot of camera shots that make the bottom limb look shorter. Is it just me does it look like the siding panels seem to get narrower from the arrow down and wider from the arrow up? weird....
DBar
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Watching, waiting and hoping it all stays together.
Looking good so far tho... :)
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FWIW, a composite pic:
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u439/cdpbrewer/erc%20composite.jpg)
The camera appears to have been very slighly askew of the bow when the photo was taken so the tiller shown is not entirely accurate.
Basically, a layer of the photo was added, flipped vertically and then the layer was rotated so the bow's profile matched in both layers (it just about matched exactly!). Then an ellipse was drawn and a line was drawn thru the ellipse's horz. axis. The thing I ponder is where that line hits on the sting and bow in relation to your hands' pressure points on the bow and string.
Anyway, thanks a bunch for posting Blackhawk- I'm rooting for ya!
c.d.
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If you look at the space to the left of the garage, you can see that the camera was not perfectly lined up (probably a bit too high - you need to get the photographer a nice cushy chair next time!), so the top is a bit closer and the panels appear bigger there.
Can't wait to see this one flinging some arrows - woo hoo!
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That's looking very good so far. Nice even tiller
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Thanks y'all
So where do I need to scrape cdpbrewer? ??? :laugh:
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At least the guys from Pa. know how to make an ERC bow:)
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::)
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You're asking the wrong guy where to scrape on that bow Blackhawk! I really struggle with tillering, hence the fooling around with photos. :embarassed: So, here's a composite with most of the askewness in the photo removed:
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u439/cdpbrewer/erc%20composite%202.jpg)
Maybe even scrapes on both limbs if the bow's profile is non-pyramid? :-\ I'm still wondering if the axis of the ellipse ought to align with your hand and fingers pressure points in the bow and string- i.e. weaker upper limb and ellipse tilted to the left. Maybe shoot a few arrows to judge nocking point and handshock before scraping?
Please keep us updated- especially where you scrape on the bow!
c.d.
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Id scrape the sidewalk so my feet stayed dry while I carried that to my burn pile...;)
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Might be a few days before I work on it again. Wind chills here are gonna be reaching near -30F for the next couple days. I'm not gonna try and prove an unbacked ERC in those conditions...it'll prob break n my fingers will get frostbite in minutes ...screw that. :P :laugh:
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I don't blame ya. That sounds miserable. At any rate can't wait to see more :)
Stay warm ;)
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So who has experience with a lot of ERC to say a high RPI is better or worse than thick rings?
Looking great Chris, I might have to whittle on her sister. I like the smell of ERC. Being that I can only see in one eye, I like it too and haven't messed with it other than roughing out.. Safety glasses required... :D
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Well its bending........... Ya still cold ? >:D
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So far so good! Jawge
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Look'n gooooooooooooooooood
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Looking good chris. To bad we are in this ice age right now.
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Yeah we've been breaking records for the last week...its -15 here this morn and that's just the temperature not to mention what the wind chill is and what it "feels" like. Looks like this trend is going to continue till the end of this month at the very least. Might be over another week before I can get outdoors with it. :-\
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Hey chicken hawk, bring that bow over to my place this Sunday. You can finish it up and we can shoot it in the basement...
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Hey chicken hawk, bring that bow over to my place this Sunday. You can finish it up and we can shoot it in the basement...
No dice on that day buddy. My oldest daughter is getting baptized Sunday. N Saturday the wife is gone all day and ill be watching the kids. Sorry....we've been striking out lately getting together. :-\
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Sooner or later we will hook up again..
I'd invite Pearly Boy too, but he would just screw something up:)
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Well...it finally got above 20 degrees today n the sun came out. :D
So I grabbed this one n strung it up n continued tillering and exercising her...gently!!! :)
I got it to 40@25" and took her out for the first round of shooting...I put 30 arrows out of it at 26"...then 3 at 27"....then went back and checked my tiller in a reflected window at 27"...so far so good....ONE....MORE....INCH!!!! Next round I'll take it out to 28" and see what happens ::)
It still had 5/8" reflex right after I unstrung it...and ten minutes later its back to an inch ;) ...that's a good sign.
Sorry no pics...the wife was doing her hair and about to walk out the door...I ain't even gonna ask if I wanna keep my manhood :laugh:
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Go baby go!
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O boy .....
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Looking forward to some pics!
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Hey chicken hawk, come on down tomorrow.. Sunday 3/1
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sorry roy...my kiddo had to sing in church today...plus have ya looked out ur your window today ::)
after church n lunch I went out in the snow storm and got her out for another round of shooting,and took her out to 28". 8)
its shooting loverly as well ;)
heres full draw folks 8) its gotta be at least 47@28" it still had half inch reflex right after I unstrung it....n 7/8" after ten minutes
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I bet you were still flinching behind those sunglasses. looks nice chris!
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Nice!
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Thanks guys... :)
Paul I'd call it more a lack of trust than flinching ;)
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Looks great! Conratulations. Jawge
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Oh yeah...looking good!
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Dont let ole pearly boy pull it back. It will break for sure >:D
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Well done dude! Looks good! How many shots so far?
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Great looking bend! would love to have an update after hundreds of arrows
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Lol sleek.. :laugh:
Arrowind I've got about 50 out of it so far...I'm gonna give her one more round of shooting before putting some oil on it.
Wiz I'll keep shooting this one lots and update for sure. ;)
Next time I work on it I'll get the cork out and glue some on the back of the handle,and a small piece for a shelf,and one more round of shooting...then the oil and a simple hemp wrap.
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Looks good bending Chris, nice work.
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Looks 9/10s broke to me. Just as it should. I bet it last forever. Great job. Can't wait to see it all dolled up.
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Sweet, Chris. I told you guys cedar works. I think most people push the tiller too fast. In my opinion you have to continue to throw it on the Tiller tree after a few scrapes and not get lazy doing it. When you pull it till it stops, you cannot go a 1/4" past, unless you feel lucky :).
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Impressive!.... Brian
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Nice! Glad to see that stick at full draw, looks like a beauty of a shooter
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tiller looks perfect from here. 8)
Low set as well..... >:D
Nicely done that man.
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Spot on tiller Chris ! Well done - Bob.
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Thanks yins guys for the replies and following along so far :)
Exactly Eddie. You can't rush this wood...it needs to be exercised more often and slowly inch by inch down teaching it how to bend...but its also nice to get lucky sometimes too ;)
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Nice looking bow Chris, this gives me hope for some erc I have.
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Sweet! Looking forward to seeing it all slicked up.
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Lookin good! hope all is well with you and da' Family!
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Came out good, tiller looks sweet.
Avoidance rules must be ignored to be falsified at all. Mostly at your own cost :P
But this time it was worth it.
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Blind luck Chickenhawk... blind luck! ;D ;D ;D 8)
The "good" Chris is going to be soooo jealous...
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Well done Sir! Well done indeed. Josh
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Blind luck Chickenhawk... blind luck! ;D ;D ;D 8)
The "good" Chris is going to be soooo jealous...
Adam! Jealous!?!?!?! HA! One dude on here makes me jealous. His name starts with a "C" and ends with a "Y". And that's all the clues you get!
The bow looks good Bad Chris. After you get 500 shots through it, Ill yank it clear back to 25" (if Im lucky) and let a few fly ;) Maybe Marshall?
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Are we talkin' proper name, or user name?
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Proper, his name is Cody Wright, "Misslemaster". He can do and build anything imaginable. Im jealous! And the punk is only 22...
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I know. His friggin bows are eye candy of the best variety. He pi$$es me off, too. I hope he realises how much potential he has. One of the young guns with gobs of talent. Funny... I was just looking at one of his bows I have archived in my pictures. It's like a camp fire or my Grandson, I can't stop staring. ;D
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Proper, his name is Cody Wright, "Misslemaster". He can do and build anything imaginable. Im jealous! And the punk is only 22...
I thought maybe Blackhawk's full name was Chrissy. ;D
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Now that you mention it Pat.....his proper name is Chrissy Pooh Dreisenga. That's on his birf certificate!
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Proper, his name is Cody Wright, "Misslemaster". He can do and build anything imaginable. Im jealous! And the punk is only 22...
I thought maybe Blackhawk's full name was Chrissy. ;D
funniest thing I've heard all day.
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I knew ya could do it chicken hawky:)
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Now that you mention it Pat.....his proper name is Chrissy Pooh Dreisenga. That's on his birf certificate!
Bahahahhhhaaa.... ;D ;D ;D ;D Thanks. Coffee up my friggin nose.
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23 ;) You guys are waaaayyyyy too much!
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Oh well!... you're 23. I feel much better now. Good grief... when I was 23, I only had 2 interests: beer and another thing you might be able to acquire with enough beer. Making the works of art you turn out young man weren't even on the radar of possibility. Enjoy the praise, you deserve it.
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You guys are hilarious! Keep us posted on that bad boy Blackhawk. Looking forward to seeing it all finished up!
missilemaster - I agree with these guys. You are one of the best on this site for sure!
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looks great Chris. Congrats.
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The bow looks good BH. Hope it stays in one piece for you. ;D
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I think the 'Good Chris' might sneak over in the middle of the night and put a big gouge in the back of that bow and then stand back and watch, hands firmly on hips... ;D ;D ;D
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That is a sweet bend. Knew you could pull it off ;)
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Lmao guys :laugh: dang..looks like I missed all the comedy last night....our internet was down at the house last night >:(
And thanks for the replies...I think ??? ::)
Slapped some cork on yesterday and threw another 30 arrows out of it. I'm calling it good and ill start rubbing some oil on her tonight.
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150302_154225_915.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20150302_154225_915.jpg.html)
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30 arrows! Ha, I wouldent put any more through it either. Wouldent want anything......unexpected to happen now would we! ;)
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Nice job, had faith in you. :)
Pappy
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30 arrows! Ha, I wouldent put any more through it either. Wouldent want anything......unexpected to happen now would we! ;)
Good idea buddy....maybe I'll do just that....slick it up with oil and never touch it again for a year,then come back on here showing its still in one piece after religiously shooting everyday,and that I even extended its draw out to 32"..... :laugh: riiiiiiight....yins all know my conscious would NOT allow that O:)
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Nice job, had faith in you. :)
Pappy
Isn't it about time you face your erc fears now that you have a much wiser head on your big shoulders ::) :laugh: thanks btw ;)
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heres some pics all slicked up 8)
69.5" ntn ... ray flecked white oak tip overlays... hemp wrapped handle... 47@28"
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2466.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2466.jpg.html)
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2492.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2492.jpg.html)
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2502.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2502.jpg.html)
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2478.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2478.jpg.html)
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2498.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2498.jpg.html)
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2507.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2507.jpg.html)
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2503.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2503.jpg.html)
(http://i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x436/blackhawk28/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2469.jpg) (http://s1181.photobucket.com/user/blackhawk28/media/Mobile%20Uploads/100_2469.jpg.html)
thanks for looking,and all who replied so far and followed along.... :D
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You and your hemp handles John Denver.. ;)
Looks nice. Run a butt load of arra's through it so I can short draw it a few times this summer.
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Beautiful Chris. Next up..... Basswood! ;)
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Ive got staves ready to go Cody Right.
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Awesome Chris! beautiful!
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Very pretty wood especially in bow form! :) greatjob!
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Well done bad Chris
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Looks good BH. Hope it holds up for you.
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Looks great and i like the hemp wrap ;)
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Thanks y'all :D
Will do pearly...n I'll make sure to have a camera in my hand...n I'll have Clint snap a twig behind ya unknowingly as ya draw it :laugh:
Cody if ya got a stave I'll give it a whirl ... ;)
Double O you can shoot this one all day and not hurt it with your short draw
Thanks bub...hemp wraps are easy,durable,feel good,and good natural looks. I think pearlys just jealous. ;)
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That's a pretty bow blackhawk. Nice work.
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Dang Chris that thing turned out saweeeet
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That finished up really nice.
It's gorgeous wood.
Nothing wrong with John Denver - From Annie's Song 'let me die in your arms' hopefully these lyrics don't come true!
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Wow man, that's one pretty bow! That wood looks amazing. Nicely done!
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That turned out nice Blackhawk!
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Nicely done sir.
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That is beautiful. I have had my eye on an ERC tree behind my dad's house that is straight and no branches. After seeing your success and how beautiful your bow is, I am going to go cut that tree. Thanks for taking the time to post this build along. It was fun to follow.
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BEAUTIFUL!
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Thanks for the compliments everybody :)
Have at it swampman...just make sure to back it ;) the stuff does make a lovely shooting bow when it holds together. Ive had a erc recurve in the works since last summer that I wanna finish up soon..its next after the osage I'm tillering/shooting in today ;)
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Not sure about this Chris. I keep looking for a full draw on page 7 and there is nothing here plus there isn't even have a page 10 yet. What is that about?
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That's a beauty Blackhawk
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Well dang that turned out nice Chris. I only have a 24" draw so I'll give her a try when I run into you this summer, should be safe enough at that length so I won't even have to flinch when pulling her back.
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Glad to see that it came out so well. That is a fine looking bow.
Based on your inspiration I'll have to give your design a try on a couple cedar stave in my pile. They have thick sapwood so there is plenty to plane down.
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Its ok i guess ;D
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Thanks guys :)
Your more than welcome to shoot it if ya want next time we c each other Greg ;)
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Not sure about this Chris. I keep looking for a full draw on page 7 and there is nothing here plus there isn't even have a page 10 yet. What is that about?
Huh? ??? Both my phone and PC is showing everything fine(and apparently fine for everyone else too)...full draw picture is on page 7...and the finished dolled up photos are on page 10....and your reply is on page 11 so there's def ten pages+ in this thread.
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Very nice bow. The decrown seemed to work just fine. That's something that I will have to try. Your bows are always top quality stuff. Love the handle work. Do you glue it to the bow? How do you keep it from sliding down/around?
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Not that anyone cares,n some might think I pulled it back once for a photo never to draw it again...but
I've been shooting this one quite a bit the last month...and I've been literally counting arrows....I've now just gotten over the 500 mark after I finished it up. And no I'm not short draw shooting it either...I've been making sure I hit 27-28" every time. Its still alive and shooting for anyone that wants to know. Ill keep arrow counting and updating if anyone cares ::)
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What about your other one? >:D
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Take it to the classic. .. then it can really be run through the ringer. >:D
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That turned out great, perfect tiller on a beautiful looking piece of wood.
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That's a beauty Chris, very nice job. :)
Pappy