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Title: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: DC on February 11, 2020, 02:31:11 pm
The last thing I do before applying tung oil is burn in my initials. I'm afraid that if I scrape it off I'll screw up the tiller on what is probably my best bow ever. Maybe I'll have to leave it and it will be my "Inverted Jenny". I guess worse things could happen but I can't think of a stupider thing ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: Tracker0721 on February 11, 2020, 02:35:56 pm
Haha could be worse, I just broke a 30lb chunk of obsidian into 4 broken arrowheads and 2 broken knives. Left a pile of spalls on the ground and walked off. Looks like the bad luck fairy is out today!
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: EdwardS on February 11, 2020, 02:47:44 pm
And here my day was great.  I'm gonna leave that perfect stave alone after hearing this, though.
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: Pappy on February 11, 2020, 03:56:36 pm
Just turn the bow over. ;) :D :D Ya I have things like that happen now and then, cut nocks in backwards once, man you talk about feeling stupid. :) When I am working on bows I do a lot of marking, top, bottom, center and such to help me not do such dumb things, that works sometimes. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: Weylin on February 11, 2020, 04:34:35 pm
I was doing a horn inlaid arrow pass on a custom bow. I agonized over it for hours getting the perfect fit. When it was all finished and polished up I realized that I had the bow upside down so it was on the wrong side and on the bottom.  )-w( I felt so stupid. Thankfully there was just enough meat on the handle area that I could reshape the handle, rasp the inlay away and do it all over again in the proper place.  (lol)
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: DC on February 11, 2020, 05:05:33 pm
Just turn the bow over. ;) :D :D Ya I have things like that happen now and then, cut nocks in backwards once, man you talk about feeling stupid. :) When I am working on bows I do a lot of marking, top, bottom, center and such to help me not do such dumb things, that works sometimes. :)
 Pappy
I've already cut the arrow pass(not a rest ;)) in and I cut them like Marc St Louis so there's no turning it over. I might be able to pike it a hair just to give me some extra draw weight so I can shave it a bit thinner. I'm not going to fret over it but if the opportunity comes up I will take advantage of it.
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: bradsmith2010 on February 11, 2020, 05:16:10 pm
string wrap on both limbs,, to cover it,, :)
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: DC on February 11, 2020, 06:54:54 pm
That's a thought :D
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: NonBacked on February 12, 2020, 12:05:05 am
All you have to change is the straight line. Should be easy to remove it without changing the tiller. Then burn another straight line on the other side of your initials.
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: Hawkdancer on February 12, 2020, 12:19:58 am
Get greedy and burn your initials after you flip the bow, of course!  Nobody will notice it was burned through the tung oil finish after the next coat or two - maybe )-w( >:D (lol) (lol)!  Perhaps, you forgot to leave a nip of  poteen for the wee folk!  Very important for any endeavor that you have to leave alone overnight!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: bradsmith2010 on February 12, 2020, 02:25:33 am
Smiley face sticker,.. (lol)
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: Eric Krewson on February 12, 2020, 07:49:55 am
Different material but the same story. I have a flintlock rifle with a barrel from one of the best rifle barrel builders that has ever been. He signed his name, W. M. Large, with stamps in a semicircle on the side flat of the barrel. On my barrel the G in Large is backwards, this has never been seen on any of his barrels.

When I showed picture of his stamp on M/L sites some claimed my barrel was a fake. Fortunately there was a guy on the site who worked with Mr Large in the 50s making barrels. I had an endoscope picture inside the barrel, Bob Roller took on look at the rifling configuration and said "that is one of Bill's barrels".

 
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: PatM on February 12, 2020, 08:29:28 am
I've never understood why someone would want to basically do localized damage to a working area of the bow.  We take all kinds of steps to preserve the integrity of the belly and then burn or stamp the fibers right where a chrysal would form?  No thanks.

 Used to be quite common in the past too.
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 12, 2020, 08:49:14 am
I was doing a horn inlaid arrow pass on a custom bow. I agonized over it for hours getting the perfect fit. When it was all finished and polished up I realized that I had the bow upside down so it was on the wrong side and on the bottom.  )-w( I felt so stupid. Thankfully there was just enough meat on the handle area that I could reshape the handle, rasp the inlay away and do it all over again in the proper place.  (lol)

Ooooooohhhhhh! The words I would have chosen to use...………..
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: SLIMBOB on February 12, 2020, 09:19:22 am
Was working on a Hackberry Plains "style" bow (the "style" for all of those sensitive to the matter).  Somewhat dark cloudy day to start with and it was getting on toward evening.  Lots of meat to take off the belly, so I fired up the belt sander and went to work sanding...the back. :(
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: Deerhunter21 on February 12, 2020, 09:31:45 am
 :'( :'( :'(

one of my first board bows. didnt know anything and the tiller was off on a limb. they were both good tillers just one was bending more. grabbed a spokeshave and took the stiff side down to A 5# bow. 20# to a # pound in 5 pulls.
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: DC on February 12, 2020, 11:07:15 am
I've never understood why someone would want to basically do localized damage to a working area of the bow.  We take all kinds of steps to preserve the integrity of the belly and then burn or stamp the fibers right where a chrysal would form?  No thanks.

 Used to be quite common in the past too.
I have to agree with you. I think it started with wanting to mark it in a primitive manner. Then in a moment of vanity I thought that a burned in mark would be impossible to remove without ruining the bow thereby marking it forever as mine. As it turned out most of them are hanging on the wall so it was really an exercise in futility. That said I have never had an issue with the mark damaging the bow. As I venture further into the search for speed it may bite me. How do you mark your bows Pat?
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: bradsmith2010 on February 12, 2020, 11:32:44 am
I write my name with ink,, one the fade area side,, then finish over it,, you could sand it off,, )P(
I have a bow from Marc,, it has MSL  burned in the handle,,, and it is signed on the belly,,,
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: DC on February 12, 2020, 11:43:24 am
The thick part of the fade would make more sense. Next time. Thanks
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: The Zen Master on February 12, 2020, 12:12:48 pm
The last thing I do before applying tung oil is burn in my initials. I'm afraid that if I scrape it off I'll screw up the tiller on what is probably my best bow ever. Maybe I'll have to leave it and it will be my "Inverted Jenny". I guess worse things could happen but I can't think of a stupider thing ;D ;D ;D

I have no clue if this is a viable suggestion - could you connect the C (make it a D) then "erase" the straight line in the D? Maybe scrape the line then raise the grain with a wet Q-tip and blend it in?
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: Deerhunter21 on February 12, 2020, 12:16:43 pm
yeah just scrape the inside of the indent to get rid of the black stuff.
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: DC on February 12, 2020, 12:29:44 pm
The burn goes quite deep and I would hate to do even more damage than the burning already did. I could probably get away with it but I'll leave it for now.
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: Hawkdancer on February 12, 2020, 01:06:18 pm
Different material but the same story. I have a flintlock rifle with a barrel from one of the best rifle barrel builders that has ever been. He signed his name, W. M. Large, with stamps in a semicircle on the side flat of the barrel. On my barrel the G in Large is backwards, this has never been seen on any of his barrels.

When I showed picture of his stamp on M/L sites some claimed my barrel was a fake. Fortunately there was a guy on the site who worked with Mr Large in the 50s making barrels. I had an endoscope picture inside the barrel, Bob Roller took on look at the rifling configuration and said "that is one of Bill's barrels".

Don't want to hijack the thread. But several years ago, Ken Wee told me that "Bill" Large took to marking his barrels with four Js, the initials of his daughters, apparently because the ATF was getting too involved in barrel making.  This would have been in the 60s or 70s.  My flintlock is one of those barrels, but I don't know who actually built it.  It is more accurate than I am! :-M (lol)
Hawkdancer
 
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on February 12, 2020, 01:23:20 pm
The burn goes quite deep and I would hate to do even more damage than the burning already did. I could probably get away with it but I'll leave it for now.

Don, I fully believe that what you did will in no way affect that bow. To think it will cause frets is really reaching to find something "wrong". 
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: PatM on February 12, 2020, 01:34:04 pm
DC, I don't mark my bows in any way.
Title: Re: Some days you should just stay in bed
Post by: DC on February 12, 2020, 01:48:12 pm
Thanks PD and PatM, I really appreciate your input. I think the only diff in your opinions is "could it cause a problem" and "will it cause a problem". If you are on the borderline of fretting this could make it happen but if you're not on the borderline you're OK. I'm getting to that border so I think I'll move the mark to the thickest part of the fade. It should be safe there and keep my vanity intact (lol)