Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: NOMADIC PIRATE on October 05, 2010, 07:38:32 pm
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I still shoot the bow everyday, and feel that bowhunting is the purest form of hunting, but with the scarcity of game out here and the thick vegetation cheating by using precision airguns gave me the opportunity to use the headshot and thread the needle when those critters are inside the thick cover ( and that happens just about everytime)
And the ND3 night vision gives me the chance to go after pigs at night too
this is what I got the last 6 months
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Manny looks like yuve been have a "killer" of a time the last six months
what kind of birds are the ones in the 2 pics where your are holding them up?
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Some airgun ammo after being shot
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Manny looks like yuve been have a "killer" of a time the last six months
what kind of birds are the ones in the 2 pics where your are holding them up?
Those are Peacocks ;D
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well i got to say your a pretty damned good shot too Manny
taking them big ol hogs like that,with an air gun
whod a thunk it
are them peacocks as good eating as wild turkey?
ive often wondered ifn them two species where distanlty related
seeing as to how the yhave a lot of the same habits for life ingeneral and in breeding etc
and not to mention the ocellated turkey of south america looks like a high bred between a peacock and wild turkey
would you be interested in a trade for some wing feathers possibly,say turkey for peacock?
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Are you eating all that stuff, Manny, or just killing it?
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Just fantastic!!!!! Manny,,,, I think you could write a story, with all the info, and ballistics and sell it to a gun or hunting magazine, hunting over there is not common to us,,,, but with a big bore air gun! thats got to be good reading!!!! I try to tell my buddys about the stuff on this site they don't believe me good job JEFFW
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Well I don't see Him eating the Mongoose...or the Myna's for that Matter Eddie........but them Hogs look tasty.......
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Are you eating all that stuff, Manny, or just killing it?
2 pigs whent to a friend of mine for his wedding, 3 whent to a restaurant that serves them as Wild bore special of the night, peacocks and dove I cook , mongoose is just for pest control ;) ;)
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well i got to say your a pretty damned good shot too Manny
taking them big ol hogs like that,with an air gun
whod a thunk it
are them peacocks as good eating as wild turkey?
ive often wondered ifn them two species where distanlty related
seeing as to how the yhave a lot of the same habits for life ingeneral and in breeding etc
and not to mention the ocellated turkey of south america looks like a high bred between a peacock and wild turkey
would you be interested in a trade for some wing feathers possibly,say turkey for peacock?
Peacock is related to Phesant, and taste better than store brought Turkey, never tasted wild Turkey, ......yeah I'll trade turkey feathers for Peacock :)
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not riki-tiki!!!!
haha. good shooting man! that is some good shooting. what caliber you taking those big hogs down with?
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Dang man nuthin is safe round you huh ;) any pigs left Lol good shooting and you got some seriuos airguns my friend!!Care to give some info as makes and model?
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not riki-tiki!!!!
haha. good shooting man! that is some good shooting. what caliber you taking those big hogs down with?
Took hogs down with .22 cal, 9mm, .45 cal and 50 cal ;D ;D ;D
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Dang man nuthin is safe round you huh ;) any pigs left Lol good shooting and you got some seriuos airguns my friend!!Care to give some info as makes and model?
Sure, any particular question ?
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What are those two wood stocked units your takin the hogs with?Those are some beautiful guns!!
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Impressive as always, Manny. Good to see you pop back up.
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....DUDE! :o ;D
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Wow... I never thougt you could kill a critter as big as a wild boar with an air rfle!! Nicely done! ;D ;D
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These ain't you fathers ...spit the BB's in the Barrel..._Red Ryder BB Guns....these are highly compressed air Rifles firing 22 caliber....up to 45 caliber or bigger lead ammunition at a really good speed....nothing like a hand pump Beeman or Crossman Rifle.....these are top of the Line Hunting and Target Rifles and Pistols.
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Yes, and they command top of the line prices as well. Some of the big bore custom air gun makers are backlogged well over a year in advance. I've toyed with going the air gun way instead of going the silencer on a firearm route for Texas hog hunting. The cost is closer than you'd think. Still not sure what I'll do.
George
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I wanna silencer George....help a boy out..... ;D
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What are those two wood stocked units your takin the hogs with?Those are some beautiful guns!!
Those are 2 Korean guns.
the one with the 2 tube air reservoir and lever action is a Shin Sung Career 707 Ultra 9mm shooting the .360 cal roundball at over 1000 fps, deadly accurate is a perfect gun for headshoting hogs
the other one is a Sam Yang 909s .45 cal
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Yes, and they command top of the line prices as well. Some of the big bore custom air gun makers are backlogged well over a year in advance. I've toyed with going the air gun way instead of going the silencer on a firearm route for Texas hog hunting. The cost is closer than you'd think. Still not sure what I'll do.
George
those Korean guns are ready avaiable and farely cheap (600 bucks), they have the muzzle threaded so you can slip a silencer on them and make them dead quite, stock those guns are already mean hog killers but if you chose there a few tuners out there that can power them up significantly, making them really mean ;D ;D
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Ho BTW, thanks everyone for looking :) :)
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Wow! :o
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I love it !
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I wanna silencer George....help a boy out..... ;D
Sure, when I get around to setting up a LLC and buying one I'll add you to the corporation... ;D
Course, then we'd have to hunt together... >:D
George
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Ooh I bet that could be arranged..... ;D
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El D, take a bolt action 22 and cut a v slot in the neck of a 20 oz. Mt. Dew bottle (green) ;D. Tape it on the end of the barrel with electrician tape so the blade sight is still sticking up. Cut the bottom off nd stuff with toliet paper. It does not effect the accuracy and makes a nice, quiet, pfff, noise with long rifle ammo.
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making silencers is pretty easy, I'm gonna make a couple using PVC piping,......... for backyard practice ;) ;)
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No wonder the game is scarce. ;) ;D ;D You are a killing mechine,congrats and good shooting. :)
Pappy
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Great hunting Manny! I've been waiting patiently for more Manny-hunting pictures. Awesome stuff :)
Can't wait to see some neat bow-hunting shots next ;D
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Great hunting Manny! I've been waiting patiently for more Manny-hunting pictures. Awesome stuff :)
Can't wait to see some neat bow-hunting shots next ;D
You right Kegan, bow is the way to real hunting, just got so tired to get 10 yards to porkers and not being able to let an arrow fly because they wher hanging in thick Guava cover, the precision scoped airgun gives me a chance there, of the 7 pigs I got the last 3 months none would have being harvested if I was carrying a bow ...love the bow, but I'm a hunter first ;)
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Guys, I hate to be a wet blanket, but silencers require a federal tax stamp. Federal felony to make, possess, or sell one without proper BATFE paperwork and background check. And they consider the home-made soda bottle and PVC pipe ones as illegal silencers, too. Not worth a twenty year jail term in federal pen. Also, most state game departments forbid use of silencers while hunting even if you have one legally. Game violation to use one. I can't answer about air guns, but get caught with something taped to the end of your firearm that muffles it and you will be charged with a felony. In these states, silencers are illegal period by state law and the federal tax stamp won't help: California, Delaware, District of Columbia, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, and Vermont. Note Hawaii is one.
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As I mentioned, I just wanna make one for backyard practice since those big bores are pretty darn loud ;) ;)
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...and I tape it on so I can take it off without tools, quick. A good Grasshopper is always in tune with his surroundings. ;)
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Hmm... we just need to help Manny find a bow design that's better suited to threading the needle then >:D!
There's no jail time for different bow designs is there ??? ;)?
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Kegan, I wondered about that myself ::), maybe he's getting old. If I can see one at ten yards I'm shooting. He might need arrows that straighten up quicker. ;D
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Well, it's just not a good idea to discuss stuff like that on the ol' internet. The laws make no distinction between your backyard or anywhere else. And possession is still a felony, be it on or off the weapon. For instance, possession alone of full-auto M-16 PARTS is considered possession of an actual Class 3 weapon subject to NFA law. Again, not trying to be a wet blanket, I just don't want to see anyone get in trouble over something rinky-dink.
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Well, for one, we are half ass joking around. I don't think they are going to stake out my backyard or fly a Special Agent to Hawaii to watch Manny shooting in his backyard. And they would waste a lot of money tailing me, watching and waiting till I bought a Mountain Dew. ::)
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Forget I said anything then. ::) Didn't see the joshing around in the rather detailed instructions on making a silencer. I guess I missed that.
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You can subscribe to Shotgun News and buy Flare guns and 32 mm flares and detailed instructions on how to empty and fill with black powder to make grenade launchers. ::) What I posted about silencer's came from a book called the "Poachers Handbook", I'm sure Amazon sells it, every gun magazine has it in there survival section.
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All instructional information, contained in these threads are for entertainment purposes only, and do not suggest to anyone to actually make such items, as indeed it would be a Federal offense, and frighten our government at large. ;) Of course no one on this fine site would actually consider to make one, and it is just for informational, and entertainment purposes only. ::) There are numerous You Tube examples of soda bottle suppressors. ;) Why, I actually know of someone who a long time ago, made one for a pump .22, from a copper 1/2 inch tube, and a hose clamp, and a cigar tube underneath it as an expansion chamber, and with sectioned baffles in the copper tube, and it was Holly Wood quiet. Just a click of the firing pin. But then he destroyed it, and hasn't made another since. I have two commercial ones, with all appropriate stamps, and accompanying documents, which have to be in possession with said suppressors. Not real impressed with the commercial models. The .22 I have would be a whole lot better if it was not on a semi automatic. The barrel is the suppressor. You need to use subsonic rounds, or you will still get the sonic crack, just not as easy to tell from which direction the sound came from. I want to get one more for a .22, but a screw on, which I can use on single, and tubular fed bolt actions. But Tsalagi is right, big brother is monitoring, and cuts no quarter. ;) And money is obviously no problem, as we have seen,they just print more...... ::)
Wayne
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Hey, NP, how about a reprint of the pictures, with a description of each rifle used, cal. fps, modifications available, price range, PCP, or pump lever, single, or clip fed, distance of the shot, pass through, or not, how loud, etc. Sorry for all that but it would be helpful, in deciding on whether or not I or I guess many of the other members would be interested in getting one or not. I am interested, but some have the restrictions of using an air tank to fill it. Not a real big detriment, but still something to consider. But the more I see of your pictures, the more I start thinking of the uses, not only here, but in Montana. I could use one here, because I get Opossums in my garage. I have sent two to the big Possum heaven, not too far from here. O:) It is a big mound, and smells just as a possum likes it to. I even arranged for a large steel hearse to transport their earthly remains there in a nice shiny plastic bag. ::) So I could use one here, and I have some ideas for Montana also...... ;) Oh, and I agree, you should do a story, on your hunts, and send them to various outdoor magazines. Like Field and Stream, Outdoor life, Guns and Ammo, etc. Thanks, I really enjoy seeing your hunting trips on here. Oh......uh.....do you ever smile for the camera? ;D You always look so serious. ::) Thanks again.
Wayne
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Hey, NP, how about a reprint of the pictures, with a description of each rifle used, cal. fps, modifications available, price range, PCP, or pump lever, single, or clip fed, distance of the shot, pass through, or not, how loud, etc. Sorry for all that but it would be helpful, in deciding on whether or not I or I guess many of the other members would be interested in getting one or not. I am interested, but some have the restrictions of using an air tank to fill it. Not a real big detriment, but still something to consider. But the more I see of your pictures, the more I start thinking of the uses, not only here, but in Montana. I could use one here, because I get Opossums in my garage. I have sent two to the big Possum heaven, not too far from here. O:) It is a big mound, and smells just as a possum likes it to. I even arranged for a large steel hearse to transport their earthly remains there in a nice shiny plastic bag. ::) So I could use one here, and I have some ideas for Montana also...... ;) Oh, and I agree, you should do a story, on your hunts, and send them to various outdoor magazines. Like Field and Stream, Outdoor life, Guns and Ammo, etc. Thanks, I really enjoy seeing your hunting trips on here. Oh......uh.....do you ever smile for the camera? ;D You always look so serious. ::) Thanks again.
Wayne
Thanks Wayne, I really like hunting and I like to share my days :) ...about smiling ? I'm never really in a smiling mode just after I shot a critter.
O.K. you don't necessary need a tank to charge PCPs I use hand pumps, special pumps that go up to 3500 psi
I had a thread going where I was showcasing and expaining my guns, but because of lack of interest I stopped posting on it, I'll go and see if I can find it and bring it back on and post and explain the reminder of my airguns
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Thanks, NP, I will be looking forward to the thread showcasing your guns. Oh, on the ability to up the velocity, does that mean, they become single shots, by releasing most of the reserved air pressure? Or is the air chamber changed out? Thanks, but I think I would be smiling if I had just killed two hogs, with an air rifle. Not at the deaths of the animals, but at what it took to accomplish it, and end up with a superb food bounty. ;) Take care, and thanks again for the info.
Wayne
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Thanks, NP, I will be looking forward to the thread showcasing your guns. Oh, on the ability to up the velocity, does that mean, they become single shots, by releasing most of the reserved air pressure? Or is the air chamber changed out? Thanks, but I think I would be smiling if I had just killed two hogs, with an air rifle. Not at the deaths of the animals, but at what it took to accomplish it, and end up with a superb food bounty. ;) Take care, and thanks again for the info.
Wayne
The thread is back up and I'm updating it at the moment, any specific questions just shoot away I'll do my best to answer, no they don't become necessarily a one shot ( but can if you want max power, i know a guy that has a .50 like mine tuned for one shot and he shoots 600gr slugs at over 500 FPE my .50 has 2 shots, the 9mm still has over 10 shots, the .45 over 3, what they do is tweek the valve or getiing more or less power.
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didn't have the time to hunt much lately but I got this 2 nice young boars, first Thanksgiving day, the second tonight ;D ;D
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Sweet photos Manny, thanks for posting :)
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Gamo sells a commercial airgun ( .177 cal ) that has a suppressor on it ,you can buy at walmart . Maybe since airguns are not considered firearms (No fire ) You can suppress them. You can also see them in the Cabela's catalog. ' Frank
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Manny....does that IR Illuminator on the Standard Scope help a bunch for Hogs? I was wondering...because I waqs going to buy one....but then was thinking about a full Night Vision Scope instead
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Nice piggies, Manny. :)
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Manny....does that IR Illuminator on the Standard Scope help a bunch for Hogs? I was wondering...because I waqs going to buy one....but then was thinking about a full Night Vision Scope instead
If I had the money I would buy a GEN III Day/Night scope, but since I don't ;D the ND3 does the job just fine, any Night Vision below GEN 3 would not give you anywhere near the quality picture than the ND3 does. ;) ;) ;)
And you just put on a current scope and you good to go, no zeroing in involved ;D
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Gamo sells a commercial airgun ( .177 cal ) that has a suppressor on it ,you can buy at walmart . Maybe since airguns are not considered firearms (No fire ) You can suppress them. You can also see them in the Cabela's catalog. ' Frank
I have airguns that come fully silenced, by law those are O.K. because it's part of the gun, anytime you attach a silencer it becames illegal :(
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Thanks Eddie and Kegan
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Manny what are the specs of those two rifles? Nice Pigs by the way. Just right for the grill !! ;)
Wayne
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Thanks Manny...I just ordered one!...any issues with it flickering...or the Pressure Switch going Bad? I have read some bad reviews on it...saying it aint much good in cooler weather...but you wouldnt know anything about that!
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Thanks Manny...I just ordered one!...any issues with it flickering...or the Pressure Switch going Bad? I have read some bad reviews on it...saying it aint much good in cooler weather...but you wouldnt know anything about that!
yep it says on the box too that cold weather effects it, but you right I wouldn't know :D :D otherwise evething has being working perfect, you'll like it the picture is spectacular.
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Manny what are the specs of those two rifles? Nice Pigs by the way. Just right for the grill !! ;)
Wayne
Wayne the top rifle is the 909s shooting a EPP-UG 150gr .458 slug at around 800 fps, the second is the 707 Ultra shooting a .360, 71gr roundball at 1000 fps
I can shoot dimes at 35 yards with this rifles, deadly for precise head shots,...and you right this 2 young boars are perfect eating size ;D ;D ;D
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JUST to set things straight with the airgun silencers, it does not matter whether or not it can be detached. As long as the sliencer cannot be attached to or used on an actual gun (caliber differences, threading), it is legal to have one for airguns. I have an airgun that shoots 1500 fps (breaks sound barrier, 22 crack), and I have tried the pop bottle method and it works nice for backyard plinkin.
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Here in Hawaii any detachable silencer is illegal,...I wish it wasn't and if you have concrete info that would be O.K. for me to put silencers on my guns, please let me know, I would love that ;) ;)
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If I had the money I would buy a GEN III Day/Night scope, but since I don't ;D the ND3 does the job just fine, any Night Vision below GEN 3 would not give you anywhere near the quality picture than the ND3 does. ;) ;) ;)
And you just put on a current scope and you good to go, no zeroing in involved ;D
Manny...I bought the ND3...and the pressure switch was messed up...it flickered when you activated it...so I sent it back for replacement...in the meantime I seen a Youtube Video of a Kill Light XLR250...and I bought one....I really like it...have taken two Yotes and a few Coons with it already...Coons are tearing up my feeders and cameras.... these are way cheaper than the ND3...and seem to do a great job out to about 300 yards
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got a link for that Mike ?
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got a link for that Mike ?
www.....elusivewildlife.com
you may like their other products too.... >:D
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Thanks Mike, appreciated, might need a cheaper version than the ND3 for backyard night control, are you gonna get the ND3 back ?
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Yep....I had the ND3X40mm...should get it back in a few weeks...
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This is really really cool. I never thought of high powered airguns. I need to check this out now.
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This is really really cool. I never thought of high powered airguns. I need to check this out now.
yeah David, this is a cool underground subcolture indeed
here is the last couple of months
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