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Title: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: youngbowyer on January 29, 2009, 06:35:41 pm
I saw somebody on the old englishwarbow having ordered these heads but i dont remember who it was. This is the link to the website http:///belza.iq.pl/old/index_eng.html (not sure if this is against pa rules but if it is just type in on google jaroslaw belza arrowheads) Im planning on getting some type 7's type 15's and type 16's. I am still waiting from him to reply to my email. He forges custom heads so i have asked him how much it will cost for 6 or so type 15 heads.
If any of you have experience with this man let me know to see what quality it is.

Tom.
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: uwe on January 30, 2009, 03:43:21 pm
I know Jarek since 10 years. He does excellent work. He makes repros in museum quality.He even makes superb crossbows.
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: youngbowyer on January 30, 2009, 04:56:58 pm
That's good to know. Could you then ask me why he didn't respond to my emails or is there some reason why he didn't? His work looks excellent but tuesday i sent him an email and i haven't heard since.
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: mullet on January 30, 2009, 07:04:30 pm
 Jaro is a top notch guy. Makes some really nice bows. I have a knife his friend forged.
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: youngbowyer on January 31, 2009, 04:27:49 pm
I have deiced i'll go with master arrowsmith hector cole, i sent him an email yesterday afternoon and it's takin quite a while for him to reply. Anybody else experienced this?
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: Loki on January 31, 2009, 06:28:16 pm
Well it is the weekend,maybe he's busy?

I've delt with him a few times and he's a great bloke!But he's very much in demand,he'll probably have orders to finish before he gets on to yours.
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: youngbowyer on January 31, 2009, 07:48:30 pm
Thanks Loki, did you just send him an email and do you also order by email? Well Nick birmingham said he can be a hard man to track down as he once sent him an email and never got a reply. Ill wait a couple of days then. WHen you order does he still have to make the heads? Thanks for your advice, Tom.
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: Loki on January 31, 2009, 09:16:52 pm
Email him telling him what you want to order,he'll then email you back with the price and expected delivery time,i've had heads in a few days but sometimes it can be weeks.It will depend how busy he is..?
He doesnt accept paypal or credit cards so you'll have to figure out a way of getting the payment to him?i just send the cash in the post not sure if thats a good idea for you?
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: youngbowyer on January 31, 2009, 09:19:57 pm
Hi,

Thanks Loki! I sent him an email with a different email adress that i saw somewhere on the internet on an armoury website.
But i'll see if i get a reply.

Tom.
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: uwe on February 04, 2009, 12:19:40 pm
Or use the snailpost- (letter)! ;)
Thazs what I did always.
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: youngbowyer on February 04, 2009, 05:30:20 pm
well hector cole sent me an email back and i made an order of  1 type 15 head, a type 10 short, a type 10 long, a heavy war bodkin, a type 13 broadhead, and towton war bodkin. and the rest are going to be drop forged long bodkins from diy archery along with 3/8 birch shafts and 3 dozen white fletchings.
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: triton on February 05, 2009, 04:45:50 am
make hey while the sun shines.
I was in Orlando last year, came back with some real bargains.  bought some $120 boots which was £60. 
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: Loki on February 05, 2009, 01:13:01 pm
Quote
well hector cole sent me an email back and i made an order of  1 type 15 head, a type 10 short, a type 10 long, a heavy war bodkin, a type 13 broadhead, and towton war bodkin.

Blimey! Your parents must really support your Hobby YB,thats £61 worth of heads! ;D.Which Type 15 did you order?
Here's a pic of HC's Towton head,is this the War Bodkin you've ordered?
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/AnLoki/towtonsideview1.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/AnLoki/Copyoftowton2.jpg)
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: mullet on February 05, 2009, 08:26:26 pm
 Triton, you should have PM'd me. We could have put away a pint or two and chased some hogs. I live 40 minutes from Mousehole.
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: youngbowyer on February 05, 2009, 09:48:23 pm
Quote
well hector cole sent me an email back and i made an order of  1 type 15 head, a type 10 short, a type 10 long, a heavy war bodkin, a type 13 broadhead, and towton war bodkin.

Blimey! Your parents must really support your Hobby YB,thats £61 worth of heads! ;D.Which Type 15 did you order?
Here's a pic of HC's Towton head,is this the War Bodkin you've ordered?
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/AnLoki/towtonsideview1.jpg)
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/AnLoki/Copyoftowton2.jpg)

Lol my parents do support my hobby especially my mom as when i explain why i need new arrows because of spine and that. that is the head the im ordering. tomorrow ill be ordering and once i get them ( 10 mm birch shafts and 6 long bodkins and then the heads from hector cole i exect this to arrive in 3-4 weeks) ill post pics oce im done and some of the pics of the heads as well.  i ordered a regular type 15 not the swept out so that would be a devises swallowtail i think
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: Loki on February 06, 2009, 01:23:43 pm
The Devices Swallowtail is a Type 15 (what a Brute!),this is a swept out Type 16 :).
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/AnLoki/sweptouttype161.jpg)
This is the Type 16 (pic taken from Hector Coles site)
(http://www.hectorcoleironwork.com/images/t16.gif)

Type 15 Devices Swallowtail (pic taken HC's site)
(http://www.hectorcoleironwork.com/images/type15.gif)
The Swept out type 15 :) (again pic taken from HC's site)
(http://www.hectorcoleironwork.com/images/t15sweptswallowtail.gif)

Have you shot a Swallowtail arrow before YB? It's pretty scarry  >:D
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: triton on February 06, 2009, 05:11:16 pm
ahh they have strange deices in Devizes (excuse the local joke, for local people)  ;D
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: youngbowyer on February 06, 2009, 08:32:08 pm
The Devices Swallowtail is a Type 15 (what a Brute!),this is a swept out Type 16 :).
(http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/jj7/AnLoki/sweptouttype161.jpg)
This is the Type 16 (pic taken from Hector Coles site)
(http://www.hectorcoleironwork.com/images/t16.gif)

Type 15 Devices Swallowtail (pic taken HC's site)
(http://www.hectorcoleironwork.com/images/type15.gif)
The Swept out type 15 :) (again pic taken from HC's site)
(http://www.hectorcoleironwork.com/images/t15sweptswallowtail.gif)

Have you shot a Swallowtail arrow before YB? It's pretty scarry  >:D

No i have never shot a swallowtail head before but i can assume that it is pretty scary :p ;D Im ordering tomorrow hoping to get my stuf in 4 weeks or so. Loki do you live in the U.S? if you do how long did it take you for the heads to get there.
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: youngbowyer on February 06, 2009, 08:33:51 pm
Never mind i see you live in Durham, England.
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: bootboy on February 11, 2009, 03:03:32 am
when you forge these how do you get the one peice. Just off hand i would imagine that youroll the socket, then forge weld it to a head you made seperately am I close?
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: triton on February 11, 2009, 04:13:39 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFmJR_4eZkw&feature=related
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: bootboy on February 12, 2009, 01:09:28 pm
I see, so you make it in the same process as a bodkin then flatten it to the shape you're after then hot cut the barbs!
Thanks!
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: loxley on May 19, 2009, 07:18:34 pm
I saw somebody on the old englishwarbow having ordered these heads but i dont remember who it was. This is the link to the website http:///belza.iq.pl/old/index_eng.html (not sure if this is against pa rules but if it is just type in on google jaroslaw belza arrowheads) Im planning on getting some type 7's type 15's and type 16's. I am still waiting from him to reply to my email. He forges custom heads so i have asked him how much it will cost for 6 or so type 15 heads.
If any of you have experience with this man let me know to see what quality it is.

Tom.
Hi all...
yes it was me... ;) i've only just got around to joining this forum... ::)  shame the old englishwarbow forum closed down, still, it seems there are some familiar names around here !!
Jaroslaws forged heads are really good and reliable , and so are of course Hector Cole's, i've just recently recieved some more from him...

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Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: loxley on May 19, 2009, 07:22:51 pm
and here's some Hector's:

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Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: Davepim on May 20, 2009, 11:25:58 am
Hi Chris,
   Nice to see you've joined the forum. I bought some plate cutters from Jaroslav recently; yes he does take a bit of a time to reply to your emails, but he'll eventually reply. He will now do the heads with a 1/2" outside dia socket for a bit extra, as he knows more people shooting warbows need them. Mine cost around six euros each and I have now case hardened them, so they are sharp and hard enough to scratch glass - I'll be using them at the Triskell when you come over.

Cheers, Dave
Title: Re: jaroslaw belza arrowheads
Post by: loxley on May 28, 2009, 05:53:07 pm
Hi Dave,
looking forward to the festival !
I'am about to case harden my forged points as well, good to hear you've already done yours !

Chris