Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: eatsnax on January 03, 2013, 10:14:16 pm
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Hello all my name is Mike I am the associate producer for Swamp People on History Channel. I need your help please.
We are working on a small historical piece about garfish and parlaying it with how native Americans once used gar scales and bones and fashioned them as arrow heads. This is where I hope y'all come in! We need pictures that can be cleared (meaning you own them or know who does and they can be signed for). Pictures of gar scales that are fashioned into arrow heads.
Also any leads on historians who possibly have access to authentic arrows or pictures of some. Any help or leads would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Mike
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Wow, I kinda wanna see em too.
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You can do a search and find all kinds of pictures. But over here we need to clear pictures for use on TV.
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Try contacting Bryce. In this post he says he killed a deer with a gar scale tipped arrow. Maybe he can give you some pictures.
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=32114.0
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Or Swamp monkey. He posted some pictures of them here.
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=22292.0
Good luck, and I love the show. I never miss an episode.
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Thanks guys! Anyone else with any leads please chime in. Thanks!
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Have you checked with the Smithsonian or the Museum of the American Indians in Washington? Both have extensive NA archery artifacts.
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I have a friend that makes river cane arrows with gar scale points. He is extremely knowledgeable about the Southeastern Indian Culture and speaks the Creek language. I don't want to publish his name without his permission but can provide his contact information. My e-mail address is ga6693@hotmail.com if you are interested.
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Contact Billy Berger (billy) , he might be of some help as well since he is into the research aspect of it.
Tracy
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How soon do you need the photos? I could get some gar scales and make a few arrows but it will take a week or so depending on the mail.
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Claude VanOrder in Ocala, Fl. makes reproductions for local museums in Florida. He has some made up in his quiver the last time I saw them and I have his phone number.
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Eatsnax, sounds like you have enough photos for a whole show on the history channel. Just show the same photos over and over and say the same things over and over like they always do. >:D
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Eatsnax maybe you can pass on some helpful hints. i tend to agree with asharrow, the editing has made the show almost unwatchable for me. I used to love it and watch every episode but the way you guys edit the fights and show clips of gators they arent even fighting ruins it for me. You guys should just show the actual fights. I understand they are trying to dramatize it as much as possible but I firmly believe that shortens the lifetime of every reality show because it stops being reality and people realize it. Anyway just my two cents but I hope you really pass it on.
By the way I also have some gar scales I could whip up some arrows with if you need the pics.
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Eatsnax maybe you can pass on some helpful hints. i tend to agree with asharrow, the editing has made the show almost unwatchable for me. I used to love it and watch every episode but the way you guys edit the fights and show clips of gators they arent even fighting ruins it for me. You guys should just show the actual fights. I understand they are trying to dramatize it as much as possible but I firmly believe that shortens the lifetime of every reality show because it stops being reality and people realize it. Anyway just my two cents but I hope you really pass it on.
By the way I also have some gar scales I could whip up some arrows with if you need the pics.
Yeah we have no say in how things are done. The network has their say in everything.
Can you please send me any pictures you have of gar scales to focalpointefilms@gmail.com thank you!
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How soon do you need the photos? I could get some gar scales and make a few arrows but it will take a week or so depending on the mail.
Thanks Jack. The sooner the better. A week is fine. We just need good pictures to show during t he segment. You can send them to this email. focalpointefilms@gmail.com
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Claude VanOrder in Ocala, Fl. makes reproductions for local museums in Florida. He has some made up in his quiver the last time I saw them and I have his phone number.
Can you PM me his number or send it to focalpointefilms@gmail.com? Thanks!
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OK, Eatsnax. Will do. ;D
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Will you do a video or two on making them Pat???? PLEASE!!!!!!!!! ;D
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Yep. Mike, I'll do the video as soon as I get my hands on those gar scales. Should be about 3 or 4 days for the mail... :)
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sweet!
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Eatsnax, I sent you some pictures by email that are full size. If you need more, I can send you more. Here are the ones I have on photobucket (reduced size).
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How large wasnl the gar those scales came off?
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Couldn't tell yah. :-\ The seller didn't say. He probably doesn't know either.