Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Milt0n on October 27, 2014, 03:47:56 pm
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As one noob to another, READ IT. I know what you are thinking. Meh if I get stuck I'll just ask. Don't. Listen to every veteran stick shooter on here buy the damn books and read them. I'm about 1/3 into volume 1 and I can tell you in already kickingyself I'm the caboose for not reading it earlier. The first few chapters alone have given me more understanding than 4 months of reading every forum post and watching every video I could find. They sound like a broken record when telling us beginners to read them.....for a reason.
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The four volumes are absolutely a massive collection of wooden bow building knowledge......worth every penny of cost.
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I just felt the need to put it out there. I did the same thing the majority of noobs do and dismissed it quickly. The internet knows everything afterall. Finally said screw it and got them. With in 5 minutes of cracking Vol. 1 open I knew waiting was a huge oversight on my part. I have not even begun my first bow and can tell you I feel much more confident that this piece of firewood I will make will be a larger step in the right direction. Should I hit a snag I will have a minimal grasp as to what happened, rather than none.
Thank you PA for drilling it in my head that I should read these.
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Yep. I am a bit prone to buying books anyway, and got all four volumes early on. I still refer to them or just re-read parts regularly (not daily anymore, but almost). I think some people like to focus on a few areas where philosophy has changed (decrowning) or typos/errors (the infamous arrow spine drawing, which is backwards), but overall there is still a boatload of good information in TBB.
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yes great info,, I learn something every time I pick one up an read
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I bought Volume 1 years ago, and at some point, one issue of PA--don't ask me which one. It was enough to spur my interest--which lay dormant for about a decade. So last week, I ordered Volumes 2-4, along with a couple of other classics. My problem is that I would a whole lot rather read about almost any subject than get off my butt and do it!
Best regards,
Russ
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Milt0n, how, tell me HOW could you stop one third through Vol. 1 to post this thread????
Jim Davis
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I have no tools, no work area, and no available wood. still my passion lays in bow building. I was working minimum wage at a coffee shop. every paycheck id buy another bowiers bible books. they r fantastic. I committed the sin of grabbing a board and produced a shootable bow first try with the help of these books (and countless hours on youtube before hand) get the books. just get em !
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I agree wholeheartedly.
Superb books which got me started.
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The Chapter in #1 on Tillering is worth the cost of all four books combined. Pre-Internet, I loaned My #1 book to many students. Still going strong ! Bob
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Yep ,great resource to have ,I ant much of a reader .but I have them all and have read them,some more than once. :)
Pappy
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I have no tools, no work area, and no available wood. still my passion lays in bow building. I was working minimum wage at a coffee shop. every paycheck id buy another bowiers bible books. they r fantastic. I committed the sin of grabbing a board and produced a shootable bow first try with the help of these books (and countless hours on youtube before hand) get the books. just get em !
I hope you don`t mean that board bows are sins..... I only build board bows and there great.... ;)
About the TBB, I have only vol. 1-2 and I haven`t read all of them (English is not my native tongue) but the info in those book is invaluable.
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When volume one came out it was like the holy grail to us fledgling bow makers, there wasn't much more than simple texts and bow making pamphlets out there at the time. I bought volume two and three when they came out and was a bit disappointed in all the fluff written to fill pages between the actual useable information, I didn't buy volume four.
My take, buy volume 1 as it has the best concentration of actual bow making information and will get you started. The other volumes, buy them if you want them.
Bow making is like any other craft, you learn ten times more by doing than by reading.
Case in point; Flintknapping, I have all the books and videos but have spent very little time actually flaking rock so I still don't know how to flintknap.
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I concur. I tell all my friends/acquaintances/people who ask about the series. I suggest that if you can only afford one, get Vol I. If you can afford two, get Vol I and IV. The other two are neat and full of fun stuff, but are more focused and specific regarding styles and skills. I and IV are more general in scope, skill, and technique. They are great for learning how to get it done.
There are lots of other good books around, all useful and pleasant to read, as well as a host of forums, YouTube videos, tutorials, blogs, build alongs, and such forth, many by member from this fine page. But for an all around on hand reference to dog ear and richly absorb, nothing beats the TBB Vols I and IV.
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Milt0n, how, tell me HOW could you stop one third through Vol. 1 to post this thread????
Jim Davis
Look at the time it was posted. I was at work. All of my free time is spent burried TBB in prep for my first board bow begining next week. Followed by felling a few hickory's in the yard. Hopfully I will end up with enough usable or practice staves to quick dry some and let a few season. Either way tool will meet wood within the next 5-7 days. This site has been invaluable. I have been a lurker for a bit. While lurking I noticed the pattern that every questions I have sought to answer has been answered 400 times, at least 1 being read Vol. ? of TBB. Help yourself before you seek help.
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I've never read it but I see nothing wrong with coming here to ask questions if you get stuck
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Ok, I will go and get the book :P
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I gave away Volume 1, but had them all. I go to Volume 2 more then any of them.
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When you first get the book put a layer of good plastic tape around the edge of the cover. Otherwise the plastic coating on the cover starts to peel off after you open it a couple of thousand times. ;)
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I have no tools, no work area, and no available wood. still my passion lays in bow building. I was working minimum wage at a coffee shop. every paycheck id buy another bowiers bible books. they r fantastic. I committed the sin of grabbing a board and produced a shootable bow first try with the help of these books (and countless hours on youtube before hand) get the books. just get em !
I hope you don`t mean that board bows are sins..... I only build board bows and there great.... ;)
About the TBB, I have only vol. 1-2 and I haven`t read all of them (English is not my native tongue) but the info in those book is invaluable.
heck no. I think a bow is a bow. some people" as the books state" believe board bows are inferior. I personally have no biases. got to admit tho it is a little cooler to do it from scratch ;)
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I now have all four volumes and am picking through them (mainly 1 and 4), in chronological order of the process one follows--starting with wood selection and curimg--same with sinew. From the perspective of a beginner (I hate the word "newbie"--it sounds like some sort of mental disorder), Volumes 1 and 4 are definitely the most helpful.
But Yesterday, I recieved "The Bent Stick" and am reading it cover to cover. It is the most basic in approach--defines everything!
Best regards,
Russ
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Russ, you will find #4 to be an update for the info in #1 with a few other tidbits thrown in.
The Bent Stick is a great resource for whitewood bows.
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Yep ,liked the bent stick also,very basic great for those starting out,it was really great when i started as with several on here,before there was an On here. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D
Pappy
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The TBB volume are outstanding couple them with The Bent Stick and you have a great books. Jawge