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Offline swimbill

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points come off?
« on: March 10, 2010, 01:05:27 pm »
Lately the field points on my arrows have been coming off in the target.  These are the standard glue on steel tips, I put them on with hot melt glue.  Has anyone else had this happen and does anyone have suggestions to stop it.  I am tired of digging points out of targets. ??? ???
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Offline Josh

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Re: points come off?
« Reply #1 on: March 10, 2010, 01:07:10 pm »
I have that happen alot too.  I was at a 3D shoot 2 weekends ago and someone suggested using Paraffin Wax on the tips so they come out of the target easier. Just rub the first two or three inches of the arrow tip with the wax before shooting.  Reapply as needed.   Maybe that will help.   :)
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 01:18:49 pm »
This happens to me especially in the winter. One thing you can do is use a thread tap and tap the inside of the point. This will help it hold on better. Some folks will drill a hole through the head and shaft and add a pin.
  Do you degrease the heads before installing. Oil is added at the time they are made to prevent rusting and that oil has to be removed. You can soak them in alcohol or acetone for a few minutes to remove the oil or like I do heat them well to burn off the oil.
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 01:27:37 pm »
I have had this problem alot. This time I drilled a bleder hole near the point to let the trapped air bubble out I also sanded the inside to rough em up and degreased them and used epoxy glue. Haven't had a chance to try them out but as soon as I do I'll let you guys know how it works,Ron
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Re: points come off?
« Reply #4 on: March 10, 2010, 01:49:29 pm »
I never thought to degrease them,  glad to hear it is not just me having this problem.  Thanks for the advise.
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« Reply #5 on: March 10, 2010, 01:52:29 pm »
I usually degrease them with acetone, and often put them on with two-ton epoxy.
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« Reply #6 on: March 10, 2010, 02:35:55 pm »
Super glue holds the world together  ;D
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« Reply #7 on: March 10, 2010, 04:03:40 pm »
 Yep ;D , you gotta degrease them.
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« Reply #8 on: March 10, 2010, 06:23:45 pm »
Degrease them....drill a pinhole in them...squirt the Hot Melt (not no cheapo Craft Store Hot Melt either) in the Tip....push on and twist...hold downward pressure till the Glue sets...this is important...because they can and will push back up....and to keep from losing them in a Styrofoam Target...now this is ElDestructo's Patented Recipe here...no stealing this Guys.......OK...... :P...I take a Liquid Shoe Polish Applicator Bottle...or an empty Absorbine Junior Bottle (my Favorite) and fill it full of Armoral...then just swab Your Arrow Shafts down good with this...let them dry...do it again....and I will Guarantee you ...that they will pull out of a Styrofoam Block like nothing else you have used....just remember to do it every other outing or so....try it and see.....but remember who taught you this Secret..... ;)
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Re: points come off?
« Reply #9 on: March 10, 2010, 07:19:10 pm »
ive used wax for that purpose
but Mike,i like your idea even better  ;D
promise i wont ever take credit for it when people ask "what the hell ya doing there and why?"
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Re: points come off?
« Reply #10 on: March 10, 2010, 07:22:35 pm »
Tim....I started doing this with my Carbon Arrows...years ago...and it works just as nice on Wood and Cane...or Boo....as long as they have a Sealer...or finish on them for the Armorall to adhere to...they get really slick...you can pull all of them out by Hand from even the toughest 3-D Targets....
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« Reply #11 on: March 10, 2010, 08:44:12 pm »
 My friend showed me the Armorall trick a couple of years ago, I've always been too lazy to use it.
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Offline Tim B

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« Reply #12 on: March 10, 2010, 09:44:18 pm »
I used to use the hot melt glue as well because of ease in changing from field tips to broadheads but found no matter what you do when the arrow penetrates the high density foam targets it heats up the glue and the tips come off when pulling the arrow from the target. An epoxy or superglue would work much better with very few failures and you can still heat the field tips to get them off and change out to broadheads with both.
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2010, 12:20:04 pm »
Quote from: cracker on March 10, 2010, 01:27:37 pm
I have had this problem alot. This time I drilled a bleder hole near the point to let the trapped air bubble out I also sanded the inside to rough em up and degreased them and used epoxy glue. Haven't had a chance to try them out but as soon as I do I'll let you guys know how it works,Ron
I promised an update on this method. IT WORKS REALLY WELL . I have fired these arrows probably two dozen times each and none has lost it's point. This will be my method from now on.Ronnie
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Re: points come off?
« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2010, 12:51:32 pm »
Howdy Group,

Often, when folks are talkin' huntin', the subject of arrow penetration comes up.  As you probably know, folks have found that increased arrow weight increases penetration. 
But how about trying El D.'s ArmorAl suggestion to increase arrow penetration?  It stands to reason that if ArmorAl allows the arrow to come out more easily, it should help the arrow go in more easily; greater penetration. ;)

What do you guys think?  Are we on to something here? 

All the Best,
Canoe

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