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Offline bjrogg

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Re: Point of The Month - Sticky
« Reply #1665 on: January 02, 2022, 12:33:26 pm »
Sounds good to me Mike. Iím going to need a picture though. Iím not very good with the names.

In fact Iím sorry. I noticed I called last months a corner notch. It should have been a corner tang I think.

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Re: Point of The Month - Sticky
« Reply #1666 on: January 02, 2022, 02:23:44 pm »
Was able to work down a flake this morning for an example. I really like the fish tail style stem with a slight concave base but they were also made with straight edges or had slight convex bases if I read this correct. Its an older style point 2000+BP so I figure they were not arrow heads but I think a smaller version would work very well used that way. Looking at this one I think a larger version would make a dandy knife. I may work this one down a bit more to try and remove a few steps I created but figured I take a couple pictures before I broke something. All in all pretty pleased with turning this one out in short time with that material.
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Re: Point of The Month - Sticky
« Reply #1667 on: January 04, 2022, 08:20:02 am »
Looks great Mike.

Iím up for that style. I will try to get one done before end of the month. Been busy with paperwork lately and a couple other projects. I should be able to get er done though

Thanks for posting a point for us

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Re: Point of The Month - Sticky
« Reply #1668 on: January 05, 2022, 01:05:16 am »
Thanks Bj. If you dont have any resource books I found a good web site that gives examples and some background of different styles...projectilepoints.net They show several examples of most points in their collected material.

Tried my luck at making a better point for some obsidian. Never worked with the stuff before. Nice stuff! Wanted to keep enough length for a knife but could see real fast it would be a bit short for that. Kept the stem and base straight. Not sure I like that variation as much. Does not look like the examples I have seen. Looks too much like what I think an Adena point should be like. Oh well, I ramble too much on things I dont know enough about lol. 2.75" in lenght, didnt measure width but I'd guess 1.5". Need to not take pictures in the shop, they never come out good. Cheers. Mike
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Re: Point of The Month - Sticky
« Reply #1669 on: January 13, 2022, 06:35:50 am »
Hey Mike. Iím not forgetting about this challenge yet. I have a older calendar someone gave me. Is this the style point you described?
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Re: Point of The Month - Sticky
« Reply #1670 on: January 13, 2022, 10:11:40 am »
Bj, that looks to me like a Hardin, and a real nice one also. I made a Ashtabula a long time ago, see if I can find a pic. I have a Overstreet book but camera is giving me problems and I'm hi tech illiterate when it comes to these things. If I get it figured  out will post Overstreet pic, found a pic of the one I made a long time ago, pretty crude. Bob

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« Reply #1671 on: January 13, 2022, 11:50:50 am »
It sure is a beauty ainít it outback. Iím really poor with the history, names and regions. I always find it interesting though how many times I think. I made that style before and didnít even know it existed. Totally by accident.

Iím hoping to finish one up here yet.

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« Reply #1672 on: January 13, 2022, 01:40:16 pm »
BJ, Hardins look so easy to make but to get that certain look on the barbs is real hard, Bob

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« Reply #1673 on: January 13, 2022, 02:32:31 pm »
Iíve been learning that Bob. Iím not even done and thinking of starting over. I think I have a completely different strategy for the next one.

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« Reply #1674 on: January 13, 2022, 02:57:53 pm »
BJ, Ashtabula usually have one barb longer than the other and one appears to be rounder than other, makes them look wonky but that how the originals looked according to Overstreet. Late Archaic to Woodland, 4000-2500B.P. NE. Ohio and Penna. Bob

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« Reply #1675 on: January 13, 2022, 11:14:28 pm »
Nice point Bob. Better than my best. And thanks for the explanation.

Bj right or wrong, in trying this point I make a triangle preform and get it about as thin as I dare before I work on the stem otherwise it may look like....  :-K
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Made several attempts over the past week or so. I spend more time on the stem to even out both sides but it still ends up asymetrical lol. After looking at the picture I think I should have narrowed the stems some more to be more like the originals. Going to post a pic of the group but think the dacite piece on the right is my best overall attempt even though the stem did not turn out as good as I wanted.I have a few more I worked down to bifaces but will leave it at this unless one of those turns out better.
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Re: Point of The Month - Sticky
« Reply #1676 on: January 13, 2022, 11:25:56 pm »
M2A, great set of points, and I to like the dacite one the best. One shoulder is longer and and one barb is rounder than the other, Just like Overstreet explains it, very nicely done. Bob

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Re: Point of The Month - Sticky
« Reply #1677 on: January 15, 2022, 09:43:29 am »
Thanks Bob. Always a challenge to know when to stop. "Just a couple more flakes....lol
Mike

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Re: Point of The Month - Sticky
« Reply #1678 on: January 15, 2022, 10:29:04 am »
Thanks Bob. Always a challenge to know when to stop. "Just a couple more flakes....lol
Mike


Seems like it never gets easier.

Itís always easier when you know it was before you just snapped it in two.

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Re: Point of The Month - Sticky
« Reply #1679 on: January 15, 2022, 11:55:05 am »
Iím still not certain exactly what my point is supposed to look like. I started out imagining something different and switched to what I have.

It is based more off Outbacks old point and itís a little crude to.

Iím not completely finished yet but this is what I have so far.

I could still make some changes.
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