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Offline simson

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Elder HLD 40/28 (No. 37)
« on: January 16, 2014, 04:34:58 pm »
Elder HLD 40/28

I will do some HLD (hollow limb design) bows in the upcoming time. I found high crowned staves of dogwood, sumach, elder, euonymus plum and osage in my pile. Its more or less experimenting to find outmatching species and bow length for HLD, always aiming for a28” drawlength.

Here is the first, an elder sapling bow coming from a stave 60,5” long ( now 59” ntn) and only 1,5” in diameter (at handle). It had a large pith, the hole in the handle is the origin diameter. This diameter tapers out in the fades to a very pronounced groove, which then tapers into a triangular shape at about 4” before nock.
Elder is a very flexible wood and easy to work on, IMO it is a good bowwood and can definitely be used on HLD bows. This bow is very light by mass (only 332grams incl. string + hemp) and shoots great.
I made “finger-nail shaped” tip overlays for her, as elder is soft and I'm using thin strings. The handle is simple hemp wrapping. Elder wood is a bit boring, so the back is “dyed” with rubbed in earth pigments in the wet finish.

some dimensions:
length:              59"
brace:               5"
mass:               332 grams
w/d at handle:   24/33 mm
w/d:at fade:      40/19 mm (9 mm groove)
w/d midlimb:     39/16 mm (7 mm groove)
w/d at tip:         11/13 mm

stiff parts:          8" at handle
                         3" levers

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« Last Edit: December 19, 2014, 03:42:27 am by simson »
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Offline PEARL DRUMS

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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #1 on: January 16, 2014, 04:37:30 pm »
Another winner Simon!
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Offline Lee Lobbestael

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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #2 on: January 16, 2014, 04:37:56 pm »
WOW!

Offline BOWMAN53

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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2014, 04:44:54 pm »
Now i know not to enter for selfbow bom lol its already won.

Offline Carson (CMB)

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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2014, 04:51:47 pm »
The HLD combined with the hollow handle is mind-blowing cool!   8) 8) 
"The bow is the old first lyre,
the mono chord, the initial rune of fine art
The humanities grew out from archery as a flower from a seed
No sooner did the soft, sweet note of the bow-string charm the ear of genius than music was born, and from music came poetry and painting and..." Maurice Thompso

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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2014, 04:54:46 pm »
 Simson, That is just awesome...Love looking through the handle...Profiles are sweet
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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2014, 05:00:56 pm »
You can't tell me that ain't cool!  Your patience paid off; outstanding work!

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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2014, 05:06:23 pm »
Thanks guys!
I'm always searching what to do with the hollow handle. The hole is that great that it fits an 11/32 arrow. I thought on a thing like sticking in a hardwood arrow and increasing drawweight  .....
                      .......what do you think?????
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Offline ohma2

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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2014, 06:38:15 pm »
Fantastic, im 64 years old been fooling with wood bows since I was 30 but when I grow up I want to be just like you.

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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2014, 06:52:52 pm »
I am glad you decided to rub some earth pigment into the finish; otherwise this would have been a boring bow as you said. ;) Seriously amazing bow Simson.

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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2014, 06:57:53 pm »
Boring Schmoring!  That wood is GORGEOUS!  Way to go!  How wide did you have to make the limbs to get that draw weight of a bow?  I think the last Elder bow I saw on these pages was an extra wide paddle bow design.  (...with a sinew backing down the center if I recall correctly.)

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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2014, 07:09:15 pm »
Another example of a master craftsman. Thanks for posting your work Simon.

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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2014, 07:28:52 pm »
Very cool bow Simon.  Very cool.
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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2014, 07:36:16 pm »
That bow is friggin' amazing! I never would have imagined something of that nature would be possible!

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Re: Elder HLD 40/28
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2014, 07:43:40 pm »
 :o WOW  :o All I can say is WOW beautiful. that's   8)
You are very talented
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