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Offline George Tsoukalas

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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2014, 06:39:37 pm »
Thanks, bubbles.
lenador, there is a buildalong for red oak boards on my site. You can vary t width to 1 3/8" and potentially get 45-50# if you do your tillering well.
Note that the bow has no narrowed handle and no glued on piece.
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Offline lenador

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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2014, 02:35:13 pm »


I've decided to continue to chase the ring on this because it'll be good practice. Might not help or really be worth while in terms of the performance of of this bow but I'm the kind of guy that believes experience is invaluable. From what I've seen of Osage, chasing the rings in this oak is really tough. But I'm enjoying it because its kind of like building a relationship. I'm learning a lot by just looking at the woods lines and figuring what its wanting to do.

BTW. There is tons of great info in your site jawge. That ks for that.
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Offline KellyG

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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2014, 03:02:07 pm »
good luck and keep us up to date.

Offline DC

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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2014, 04:02:18 pm »
Don't build to close a relationship yet. Bows can be a fickle mistress ;) ;)

Offline lenador

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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2014, 11:54:00 pm »
Here is my progress. Going a lot smoother now I started properly using the draw knife.


How do I work out this little bit of middle layer of wood. I don't know what its called exactly but its the thin layer between the two growth rings but its in a sort of low spot in the area. I've been sanding them out but its really really time consuming to do that. There has to be a better way.
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Offline JW_Halverson

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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2014, 12:03:26 am »
Scrape it with a pocket knife.
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Offline J05H

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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #21 on: October 11, 2014, 01:17:01 am »
Scrape it with a pocket knife.

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That "thin layer between the growth rings" is known as early wood. The thicker, more dense portion is known as late wood. A single growth ring is actually comprised of one layer of each.
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Offline lenador

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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2014, 02:05:23 am »
Ahhh. Another case of the KISS method.
Okay that makes sense. Well this once beautiful tree that was sawed into its doom as household lumber is slowly becoming a stick again....I think it likes it.
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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2014, 02:49:15 am »
Lookin' good! You're making me want to start chasing rings on oak.

Offline lenador

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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2014, 09:36:14 am »
After a sharp learning curve I feel good while working the bow down now.

I've got the whole back ring chased down and I just have to work the remaining early wood out of the dips and spots I missed. Then I'll be on to the belly of the bow. I left the 1 extra ring on the back figuring I can always take more off and you never know what's going to happen during tillering. So it is 5/8ths thick plus a ring so more like 3/4ish.
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Offline Eric Krewson

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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2014, 10:08:31 am »
You clean out the valleys with a curved nose scraper like the one in the top right of the picture.


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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2014, 12:01:28 pm »
Is that something you made your self?
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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2014, 09:03:50 am »
Back is chased down with a ring left for a buffer. The belly is chased all the way down flat. Looks really nice, has no twist and has a small amount of curve. That curve will.lend it self to the set.
 I guess I kind of don't know where to go from here. I should rough out the fades and Knicks and start long string tillering but there is not a bunch of info on bend through handle fades that I could find. I'm going to have to do my research.

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Offline J05H

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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2014, 10:15:26 am »
The term "fade" refers to the transition from working (bending) limb to static (non-bending) handle area. A bend through the handle bow doesn't really have fades because it doesn't have a static handle. The handle is not narrowed much if at all and is just thick enough to bend slightly at full draw.

Your next step would be to draw the profile shape on the back of the bow. Refer to "Building a board bow" on George's website.
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Offline Blaflair2

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Re: My first bow build along. (red oak D bow)
« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2014, 11:57:56 am »
There is no fades. Start at the tips and get them bending. Then gradually work your way to the center. U can buy old up the grip with leather or coke after ur done if u want more of a bulbua handle.
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