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Offline Selfbowman

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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #45 on: December 14, 2020, 04:19:56 pm »
Pic without finish.
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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #46 on: December 14, 2020, 04:21:39 pm »
Lost my reflex in the limbs.
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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #47 on: December 14, 2020, 04:24:19 pm »
I might have reached my distance with 50# with my tillering capability. Arvin
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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #48 on: December 14, 2020, 04:51:12 pm »
I’ve shot the same distance with all three of these bows.
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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #49 on: December 14, 2020, 05:05:20 pm »
Now its arrow development to gain some yds.’

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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #50 on: December 14, 2020, 05:07:44 pm »
245 is a tall order to match, but darned if I ain't gonna try.
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Offline Bob Barnes

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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #51 on: December 14, 2020, 06:31:36 pm »
that's a great picture of three excellent bows Arvin... looking forward to hearing the results.
Seems like common sense isn't very common any more...

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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #52 on: December 14, 2020, 06:54:56 pm »
Yep hedge that’s where the balance is for me now. Not saying any of those designs are perfect. But  I dislike arrow making and enjoy bow making. But if your going to go far it takes a match of both.  Arvin
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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #53 on: December 14, 2020, 06:57:04 pm »
I need to research some arrows and start shooting them as far as I can.

I think a little more reflex might have gained you something but then again you probably would have to remove more wood to get to your 50lbs so who knows.

I think reflex helps as long as you can keep it.

Interesting they all shot the same.

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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #54 on: December 14, 2020, 08:12:50 pm »
I use heat temperately on Osage.  I heat-treated a bow several years ago and the bow exploded tillering it out, not fun.  The wood was clean although the growth rings were somewhat fine
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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #55 on: December 15, 2020, 12:45:53 am »
Lighter tips is the next thing. I suspect you could remove a good bit of material from those recurves. Narrow them down. Look at how much a Turkish hornbows tip 'steps in' in width at the base of the curve. A standard Turkish bows tip is around 10 - 12mm wide and 17mm thick, that'#s with draw weights of over 100#'s.....tips can be much svelter (???) than you think. :)

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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #56 on: December 15, 2020, 12:47:49 am »
I've got a similar bow in elm that I have just recurved and spliced. Trying to come close to Marc's White Lightening bows. Interesting to see how yours came out. Will try and get some pics up soon, I'm going to push this one :)

Offline PatM

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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #57 on: December 15, 2020, 06:12:22 am »
Definitely trim the tips down.  The string groove style can't be quite as light as a Turkish style  belly taper but you can greatly reduce width.  They  only need a bit of material on either side of the string groove and you can trap the back severely .

  The pictures in Laubin's book of Martin style tips show this very well.

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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #58 on: December 15, 2020, 07:38:54 am »
If you do decide to loose tip mass, weight the bows mass if you can before and after to see how much your performance changes as mass drops. Also, im curious about how those bows compare in mass?
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Offline Selfbowman

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Re: New recurve Pat M style
« Reply #59 on: December 15, 2020, 08:09:06 am »
The tips are narrow now and they all are working. The static is the widest one. It comes in at 1/2. The three on the right are 1/4 to 5/16 “. The bamboo backed Osage is 5/8” wide at the base of the bend. I go much more narrow and I will get unstable.
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