Bevan, 2 weeks and almost 200 views an nobody yet has shown you any pics of there punch notchers. Well, I'm going to show you mine, must be every one else is using something top secret, mine are really sophiticated, a couple of 16d nails an a copper rivet, I mostly use the high class nail with a little notch file in them, Okay secret punch notchers are out in plain view. Have fun Later Bob, ps make sure your platform is below center or good bye ears.