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Offline Danzn Bar

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Re: Compound(spits on the ground)
« Reply #30 on: August 20, 2015, 08:46:05 pm »
Well said Howard!
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Re: Compound(spits on the ground)
« Reply #31 on: August 20, 2015, 11:13:58 pm »
I definitely could have bought a few top of the line compound setups with all the money I've spent on tools, wood, points, string material, feathers...blah..blah...

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Re: Compound(spits on the ground)
« Reply #32 on: August 20, 2015, 11:44:39 pm »
Maybe.... but how many bows did you make for that investment?
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Re: Compound(spits on the ground)
« Reply #33 on: August 21, 2015, 12:02:53 am »
Haha, I got 28 shooters out of 46 total attemps. So I guess I'm doing all right.  ☺

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Re: Compound(spits on the ground)
« Reply #34 on: August 21, 2015, 04:38:25 am »
I agree ,once you learn to shoot one well it is kind of like riding a bike you never really forget, you may be a little rusty but still can shoot pretty good, but like riding a bike it does take some time to learn the first time. ;)
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Re: Compound(spits on the ground)
« Reply #35 on: August 21, 2015, 12:31:31 pm »
I'm beginning to regret the "spits on the ground" comment. I hope I didn't offend anyone. It was an attempt at humor modeled after the "Corner Gas" TV show. I have nothing against compounds. I've never shot one. They are an amazing piece of design work and I love a good machine. I'm just stuck in a corner of archery that only includes wood.

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« Reply #36 on: August 21, 2015, 01:15:38 pm »
I won't speak for anyone else, quite frankly I rarely speak well for myself, so it ain't fair for me to speak for others...

I started bow huntin with a used compound. Wore the bearings out of it and snapped a limb. Bought a used PSE carrera and shot the fire out of it. Hunted with it for 6-8 years and finally realized I wasn't being challenged anymore. I woke up after I was standing over an 11 pt I had shot at 50 yds. Kinda made me take a step back. Wasn't proud of that shot at all.

Started making bows and challenging myself to see how much commercialism I could eliminate from my hunting life. As it turns out, all those props and crutches I thought I needed are mostly just substitutes for real skill. I am pleased to know that I can hunt without them, but sometimes I will still use them. I try hard not to look down my ugly nose at others and at the same time be a good role model for true woodsmanship.

I enjoy it again. I enjoy the building, the preparation, the practice, the community, the hunt, and the rewards are far greater when I know that I didn't buy my success.

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Re: Compound(spits on the ground)
« Reply #37 on: August 21, 2015, 01:28:46 pm »
Well put Scott

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Re: Compound(spits on the ground)
« Reply #38 on: August 21, 2015, 05:39:38 pm »
I have to agree with PD that even with all the shooting aids built into a compound (let off, sights, peep sights, release, etc) it still takes a lot of practice and work on form to become a consistently good shooter with one.  That said, I think just having any kind of pin as a reference point, esp. for elevation, is a huge advantage.  When I first made the switch from compound to a recurve, I taped a bobby pin to the back of the riser.  That was a big help for me while I worked on my form.  Of course, the hard part is eventually having to take it off and doing it without the crutch.  The satisfaction of shooting nice groups bare bow can't be beat IMO, but it took me a few months shooting 3 or 4 times a week to get there.  Since I got into making bows and enjoy that more than shooting them, though, I'm back to being a mediocre shot.  Oh well, maybe I'll get a bobby pin and start over one of these days.

I'm not into tournament shooting, but I've read about the NFAA 300 rounds.  The gist of it is if you shoot 60 arrows into the center ring (3 1/8" diameter) from 20 yards, you'll get a perfect score of 300.  Sounds tough to me, but you'd think a really good shooter could do it.  It has been done quite a few times with sights.  As far as I know no one has ever done it bare bow.
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Re: Compound(spits on the ground)
« Reply #39 on: August 21, 2015, 07:27:31 pm »
I put little elevation marks on my self bows. I like having some sort of reference for different distances. Its not out of the realm of possibility that a scratch or a small mark on the limb could have been used by a primitive hunter. Unlikely, but possible

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Re: Compound(spits on the ground)
« Reply #40 on: August 21, 2015, 07:58:30 pm »
I like that idea, Bubbles.  Gonna do that with one of my bows.
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Re: Compound(spits on the ground)
« Reply #41 on: August 22, 2015, 02:00:17 am »
     I shot a compound bow many years ago, in the early seventies, when they were first appearing on scene.  I was impressed.  But I still preferred my Bear Grizzly recurve.  I too have nothing against a compound bow.  They truly are mechanical marvels.  But they have their cons, and pros, as does the self bows, and FG bows.  The compounds, are faster, easier to pull to full draw, and hold it there.  They have longer range, which may or may not be a good thing.  They have a seemingly unending array of options, and add on products.  But they are heavier, than a self bow, or FG bow.  They have to have a mechanical device to put a new string on.  You have to go to the shop to have it installed.  They need to be tuned.  They are noisier, than a self, or FG bow.  I read in a hunting mag. about a guy in a tree stand, who saw great trophy buck coming under his stand, and when he went to nock his arrow, the razor edged blade sliced his string, and the resulting noise, made the buck hit the trail, for places unknown.  The guy had to go to town, to have his string replaced.  You can carry a couple of strings for a self, or FG bow, in your pocket.  You can buy, or make your own arrows, from wood dowels, shoots, river cane, or boo.  You are limited to arrows, in a compound.  In my opinion, it is like comparing a muzzle loader to a modern rifle.  You can make longer shots, and have a multitude of calibers, and bullet choices, but with the muzzle loader, you are limited to range, and calibers, and bullet types.  But, you have to be a better hunter, and the satisfaction, is greater with the ML.  Because you used better hunting skill.  Yep the compound is far superior, to the self, and FG bows.  But it takes something away from feeling of connecting with our past, and ancestors, and their method of hunting.  Would they have dropped their self bows, and adopted the compound if it was available, I would bet the farm on it.  But there are those, who prefer the flint lock to the cap and ball, both take skill and practice.  The compound takes skill and practice.  But there is just something about a self bow, that you made yourself,or FG that is more satisfying, than using a compound.  If I had made a successful 50 yd. shot, and collected an 11 point buck, I would definitely feel proud.  It was still with a bow, not like similar to our ancestors, but none the less a bow, and arrow.  I would not feel bad about it at all.  I hunt with rifles, and shotguns, and enjoy it.  It still takes practice and skill.  But just a little more with a ML.  So don't feel bad about spreading out your arrows, on the target.  Like the others have already told you, most likely it is the arrow, or a combination, or form, not holding the elbow of the arm up high enough, balance, and the arrow,etc.  Some people are compound snobs, some are self bow snobs.  It is what it is, so do what you like, and besides, you made your outfit, and did not have some unknown stranger make it.  In time with practice, and good arrows, you will be successful in hunting with your own gear, and that will make for a far superior memory, in my opinion.  If you  offended anyone, it is because they chose to be.  Enjoy your bow, and work with it, and ignore the naysayers, and have fun.

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Re: Compound(spits on the ground)
« Reply #42 on: September 07, 2015, 11:45:52 pm »
I have to say that the amount of thought and honest debate that happens on this site is one of the reasons I signed up.