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outcaste:
Hi Nick,
It was kind of the point I was trying to say (not very well) with target size at 220 plus yards. The tolerance (expectations) are wider at those distances.
Alistair
nick1346:
--- Quote from: outcaste on February 13, 2008, 07:19:42 pm ---Hi Nick,
It was kind of the point I was trying to say (not very well) with target size at 220 plus yards. The tolerance (expectations) are wider at those distances.
Alistair
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Hi Alistair,
I thought thats what you meant :)
Interesting that the above quote mentions chinese archers. Given the '1st class' ability, which is a fantastic achievement, it is interesting to think how many would have made into Henry V army, not many given the minimum standards applied there with far heavier bows. Not that I'm claiming I could achieve what the chinese archers achieved ohh blimey no ;)
See you at the shoot
Nick
El Destructo:
You Stated that:
Mark Stretton set the world record for a longbow at 200lb draw weight with Guiness world records a few years back. Den Erickson may well be able to shoot such draw weights but certainly does not hold the world record, to claim to be and to actualy be are two entirely different things.
I can still not find any listing of Stretton in the Guinness Book....or on their Website to verify this...can you find it and post it???
nick1346:
--- Quote from: yankeemongiat on February 13, 2008, 09:54:23 pm ---You Stated that:
Mark Stretton set the world record for a longbow at 200lb draw weight with Guiness world records a few years back. Den Erickson may well be able to shoot such draw weights but certainly does not hold the world record, to claim to be and to actualy be are two entirely different things.
I can still not find any listing of Stretton in the Guinness Book....or on their Website to verify this...can you find it and post it???
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It's not on there now, well the search didn't pick it up I don't know why. But here are some details where you can find about it. Mark set the record on 15th August 2004 so any record of it would be in the 2005(?) book and the Glade issue 106 ran an article on it.
Rod:
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Interesting that the above quote mentions chinese archers. Given the '1st class' ability, which is a fantastic achievement, it is interesting to think how many would have made into Henry V army, not many given the minimum standards applied there with far heavier bows. Not that I'm claiming I could achieve what the chinese archers achieved ohh blimey no ;)
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Nick,
Which is pretty much what I would expect given the tone and content of your response to a challenge to set a benchmark for accuracy at 100 yards, which was not even addressed to you.
How do you think you would fare going for Tang Dynasty second class? Surely that is achievable with a modicum of practice?
Probably the vast majority fell into this category since it is quite easy to miss at 100 paces and I expect that only a relatively small percentile made the first class grade.
I have no problem with someone who honestly says "I don't think I could do that" but I always hear the same old excuses.
It's not about what you like doing, or what you think you can't do, or whether you would feel embarassed at shooting a lower score than a target archer.
As I said above, when criticised by a target archer, offer him your bow and let him show you what he can do with your draw weight.
I can understand a pleasant social knockout contest starting at 20 yards, but those are for a warbow, extremely close distances and 100 yardfs should be pretty near to point on with some shafts.
But childrens and ethical hunting distances are not the distances for setting a benchmark for accuracy with a war bow.
You should not be worried about embarassing yourself with something as harmless as a recorded score.
A low score is only a place to start, something to build upon.
It won't get you killed, which is what your attitude would do if it was for real.
A good archer would have been a fair allround hand, since excuses are useless in the face of the enemy.
BTW since Den is a foreigner I thought it useful to mention something to him that I thought that you would know. But thanks for the information anyway.
A FITA face is suggested since it is the same anywhere in the world, which is useful if we are considering setting a standard for accuracy.
This does not of itself make it impossible to shoot at it with a longbow.
What it does mean however, is that you will have a recorded score which can be subject to comparison, which as you well know, is the real cause of your reluctance.
Fair enough, if you are not ready to record a score at 100 paces, it's a free country, no-one is going to make you do it.
Rod.
Alistair,
Judging by the local butt mounds, I would say around 10 or 12 feet in diameter, but no doubt with a centre "coit" or peg, like the Luttrell Salter drawing.
Rod.
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