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Native American Projectile Evolution
Zuma:
--- Quote from: mullet on November 10, 2015, 08:49:33 am ---And, don't forget Florida. Quite a few Clovis sites in North Florida and 10-15 miles out into the Gulf of Mexico.
--- End quote ---
Good point Eddie. I sure would perfer Tampa Bay to the Great Basin.
I had the great fortune to view Ben Waller's Paleo point collection
shortly before he past. Those points as I remember were so evolved
( well, works of beauty art and technology)
Not at all like the ones I see from out in the north west.
Excluding the ones in controversial Clovis cashes. lol
What is your take on the FL Paleo points? I'm sure you have seen quite a few.
Thanks
Outbackbob48:
Don, Our local archaeological club meets on Thurs(12) and we are having 2 of our members speak who just returned from the reopened and expanded Sugarloaf site, Dr. Gramly thinks that this will be the biggest clovis site in the US. This site is located on the Connecticut River in Deerfield , Mass. This site it has just been reopened after many yrs of set backs for various reasons, Dr. Gramly came to our local club 2 yrs ago with a perfectly intact lg clovis point that he believes came from manufacturing site the base and hafting area hadn't been ground yet. On a different note a yr. ago Dr. Gramly came to our local meeting with a bunch of Mastodon bones that had definitely been butchered with stone tools by the the large smooth cuts on the bones. I believe this Mastodon was either 66 or 67 th one found in NY. Museums were not even interested in this one because it had been dug thru with a ditch machine, I guess museums like ones that are relatively simpler to re assemble. I have been very fortunate to have Dr. Gramly come to our local club and speak and actually bring the real artifacts with him. I will keep ya updated on some things from the next meeting. Oh a little side note on the unused clovis point, the material supposedly came from about 100 miles south of manufacture site and was said to be Normanskill from the Hudson Valley area. Bob
Zuma:
That's real cool 8)
Getting to hold and study Paleo material is quite special.
I could do it day and night if I had the chance.
I guess we should get some photos up to see
possible similarities or differences in Paleo points
from different sites or maybe just links.
Zuma
AncientTech:
To put things into perspective, there was a tremendous shift with the advent of the archaic era.
Basically, the advent of the archaic era forced people to become super duper specialists, wherever they were at. The had to learn to extract everything they needed to survive, from their immediate surroundings. As a result, they had to develop many sophisticated processes needed in order to live, in one area. For example, they developed stone mortars, and other items, that enabled them to eke out an existence, in various regions.
What makes it more complex is that in some areas - such as the Great Basin - food was highly seasonal, with up to twelve seasons in a year. So, people had to learn to cycle through food sources, every so many weeks, simply to keep going. And, all of this took specialized knowledge that only was applicable certain areas.
Until that time, quite a few paleo points were known far and wide, or were known within certain probable migratory ranges. But, with the specialization of the archaic came a specialization of point types. One also sees signs of settled life, with the appearance of settlements, during the archaic era.
The shift from paleo types to archaic types may have reflected a shift from one lifestyle to another, and a shift in lithic materials selected. In other words, people who lived settled lives, may have been more prone to employing stone found in their respective region. Also, the shifts could reflect differences in hafting strategies.
Afterwards, the development of the bow and arrow would have involved further specialization of point types, that reflected different types of hafting, etc.
What is not so clear is the status of knives, during these eras, and transitions of eras. Shafer offers the opinion that the Lerma was never a projectile point, but rather a knife. The Hasket tradition, to the far north, may have been a knife tradition. And, there could have been knife traditions in between the Lerma of Mexico, and the Haskett of the Great Basin.
Probably the best way to look at this is to place projectile point typologies side by side, with dates in sequence, and then see where there was common ancestry, and the look at what spun off of the common ancestry, with the advent of the archaic era. Beyond that, one could track the development of lithic styles, with the retreat of the Northern Ice Shield, to see at what point in time - and where - did subsequent northern variants appear.
More banned knowledge from the chronically banned flintknapper, LOL.
Ancient Tech
Zuma:
Ben
Could you do me a favor and see if you can find Tony Bakers Clovis C14
timeline paper. It's a great resource and it would show us where to look
up sites chronologically. It has every site location and dates available to him.
I know I found it a couple years ago. It may be in a PDF file.
I can't open them. Or we could wing it. But I would like very much to stay
with Paleo before moving on to the Archaic. For clarity. Oh BTW Galt is know
as a long time Clovis settlement. Long time. lol
Thanks Zuma
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