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Psuedo Outrepasse followed by Clovis outrepasse
AncientTech:
This could be mistaken for outrepasse:
Heading for a real outrepasse:
Bam!
Far side termination is shown detached - nice curve around the edge:
The thick area was the edge of the stone - ran thin, and terminated thick. That is what I love about tine based flaking technology.
Refit:
Wrapped up for a friend who is interested in paleoindian stuff - note the right angle turn, at the end of trajectory:
Full late stage outrepasse flake scar:
All done with a simple deer tine.
nclonghunter:
I would like to have a couple truck loads of that rock....what type of rock is it?
Ghost Knapper:
How could the first two pictures be mistaken as "outrepasse"? Are you stating that the first picture is one single flake removal? Because the second photo clearly shows 2 separate flake scars, 2 separate bulbs of percussion, and a central ridge where the second flake terminated.
AncientTech:
--- Quote from: Ghost Knapper on November 29, 2015, 08:18:26 pm ---How could the first two pictures be mistaken as "outrepasse"? Are you stating that the first picture is one single flake removal? Because the second photo clearly shows 2 separate flake scars, 2 separate bulbs of percussion, and a central ridge where the second flake terminated.
--- End quote ---
The two flake scars in the first photo are two separate flakes. They are so well blended together that no distinct line shows where one scar intrudes upon the other. So, if a person is not a flintknapper, and the flakes are not present, and the edges were well trimmed (bulbs not visible), the flake scar could be mistaken for an outrepasse flake scar, since there is no sign of two distinct flakes "converging". There is somewhat of a smooth ridge/high area present. But, there are also outrepasse flakes that arc over surfaces.
Anyway, these photos cover both regular flaking, and outrepasse flaking, with the same process. It still is not clear to me how one can affirm that late stage outrepasse flaking is a "distinct technology", when what is not known is whether it could actually be part of a more complex multi-faceted flaking technology.
Ghost Knapper:
Both flake scars show rippling before termination so that along with the medial ridge clearly shows that it is not outrepasse, but yes I do agree that someone who does not know how flaked stone tools were made could mistake that as something it is not.
The photos do a good job of showing flakes traveling across the piece being worked but other methods of knapping can show the same results.
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