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Psuedo Outrepasse followed by Clovis outrepasse
AncientTech:
--- Quote from: Ghost Knapper on November 30, 2015, 02:08:11 pm ---Both flake scars show rippling before termination so that along with the medial ridge clearly shows that it is not outrepasse, but yes I do agree that someone who does not know how flaked stone tools were made could mistake that as something it is not.
The photos do a good job of showing flakes traveling across the piece being worked but other methods of knapping can show the same results.
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You are right. I think that the same effect can be achieved via hammerstone flaking, from time to time.
In some cases, this technology could be confused with hammerstone technology. In other cases, it could be confused with pressure flaking technology. And, in other cases, it clearly does what hammerstones, billets, and pressure flakers cannot do.
Also, since it is not purely indirect percussion, there are signs of other technologies taking effect, such as a percussive blow, and pressure.
AncientTech:
Ouch! This overshot went wrong...
Ghost Knapper:
One thing I have been noticing with your attempt at reproducing Clovis style overshots is that your attempts tend to just make it to the other side while ancient examples show predominant flaring and a wide removing of the opposing edge. Also the ancient examples show predominant platforms or nipples that would negate the need for a punch in areas that a hammerstone or antler bopper could not reach on there own.
Ghost Knapper:
Example:
AncientTech:
--- Quote from: Ghost Knapper on November 30, 2015, 07:07:53 pm ---Example:
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Right. But, I am not convinced that late stage overshot is as big as the early stage overshot which seems more frequently seen, in high grade materials.
My biggest similarly related flake is this coast to coast flake:
But, this technology would not produce an overshot flake - only a coast to coast flake.
Anyway, if I can get the right tools, I think that I might have a chance at producing overshot, on a much larger scale, as can be seen in some of the early stage Clovis.
Also, even though my early stage hammerstone overshot looks a lot like early stage controlled Clovis overshot, I am not convinced that it is the same thing, for a number of reasons. So, if I can get the right tools, I hope to see whether I can create something similar to early stage hammerstone overshot, only with a much more sophisticated technology that will involve a very different sets of attributes.
Regarding the width of the edges of the overshot, some of it is determined by factors other than the technology, itself. Even in my own work a great array of widths can be seen. Look at the width of this termination:
Look at the thinness of the flake midway:
That is probably only a few millimeters.
Look at the width, and thickness of the end piece:
I do not think that the obsidian overshot you posted is a good example of "late stage" Clovis overshot, (though maybe you did not intend it to be). To me, it looks like it might be fairly early, in reduction. The piece would almost appear to be a large preform. If I can acquire some other tools, I will see if I can do the same thing.
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