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First attempt build a long !
Stick Bender:
With the croaker glue I'm using it like you said to prolong gel time I do most of my work in the winter months ,making these bows can be a daunting task if you never did one but they are a heck of a lot of fun to make ,but with all due respect to all here why is Ed's bows capable of the speeds that he is getting I know he goes out of his way to publish honest real speeds , when this type of composite long bow goes against a lot of doctrine ? I'm just trying to open a honest topic about it ,not be a smart ass but with this type of design and the thinner horn longer working limb strategically placed sinew & mass it seems to work ,certainly above self bow and some glass bow performance I know from my meger exsperience there is always a trade off with varying designs , Mike I know you have made a heck of a lot of bows so your input would be appreciated , the interesting thing about this type of long bow composite is there is actually some historical reference to it found in Russia, I'm just trying to wrap my brain around the concepts I know Adam talked about efficientcie of the different designs and why shorter bows are more efficient I don't know maybe the bow would be faster shorter with less working limb but wouldn't I give up field user friendliness & stability ?
Stick Bender:
Well this is where Im ending the week end bow work needs some time to think out the design , but here would be the ruff layout at 62TTT that would give me aprox including the 2 3/4 static fades 12 inches of static it doesent seem ballanced to me when I look at it the other 2 pics are a 62TTT & 58 TTT static comparison the block is the limb cut off for the shorter both limbs would have around 17 in. Working horn if you subtract the static fades that includes the handle fades, thanks all for the input Im going to give it some thought for a few days.
Stick Bender:
62 TTT
Stick Bender:
58 TTT
Stick Bender:
Mike I will recheck the lay out the stave was sawn from the supplier it did not follow the grain so I put the center line accross the apex of the crown some of that is optical with the phone camera But I will recheck it I'm plaing on steaming the recurves in at the tips and inducing limb reflex at the time of horn glue up and after sinew hoping for a total of 10 in. Total reflex I'm sticking to the original plan of 58 TTT I decided , I might thin the horn slightly and reduce sinew to 1000 grain insted of 1100 to slightly reduce draw weight instead of lengthening the limbs or deal with the exstra draw weight
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