Author Topic: There's definitely a good bow in this  (Read 4378 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Taxus brevifolia

  • Member
  • Posts: 304
There's definitely a good bow in this
« on: April 21, 2018, 01:03:03 pm »
I posted this pic a few days ago, someone said I should have let it grow another 150 years...I disagree. It's an old branch, and it's as straight as one of Carson's arrow shafts, and plenty long enough. I have a strict system of ethics regarding what I cut. I call it the cut/no cut matrix. Just because you have the green light from the powers that be, doesn't mean you should cut. This piece passes all tests with flying colors. If your preference is for wood 200+ years old, fine, but please don't act like cutting anything younger is a bad idea.

Offline Marc St Louis

  • Administrator
  • Member
  • Posts: 7,869
  • Keep it flexible
    • Marc's Bows and Arrows
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2018, 01:59:35 pm »
I never complain about anything anyone cuts.  It's another matter if you complain about after  :)
Home of heat-treating, Corbeil, On.  Canada

Marc@Ironwoodbowyer.com

Offline wizardgoat

  • Member
  • Posts: 2,397
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2018, 02:35:59 pm »
A lot of yew I cut is that size, maybe a little bigger. 2-3” is my favourite stuff.
Much easier to cut and haul out, and you don’t have to kill a tree to get a few staves from it.

Offline Bryce

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 3,125
  • Pacific Ghost Longbows
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2018, 04:32:50 pm »
I’m the opposite. If I can’t get 4-5 staves out of a round I won’t cut it.
Clatskanie, Oregon

Yellarwoodfellar

  • Guest
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #4 on: April 21, 2018, 10:03:40 pm »
I'd be willin to trade ya a nice Osage stave for a nice yew stave. Never worked yew over yet😅. Seriously though. If you're up for it I am too

Offline Taxus brevifolia

  • Member
  • Posts: 304
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2018, 11:46:46 pm »
Whew I'm glad I'm not the onliest one!

Offline High-Desert

  • Member
  • Posts: 876
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2018, 12:01:11 am »
If it's a tiny branch or a big 10" tree, if I can use a majority of it with out waste, I'll cut it.  This piece looks like it will get good and used.
Eric

Offline Bryce

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 3,125
  • Pacific Ghost Longbows
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2018, 07:29:56 pm »
It will make a bow. But the amount of heartwood is gonna be minimal. If I had to guess it will probably follow the string 3-4 inches.
Clatskanie, Oregon

Offline PatM

  • Member
  • Posts: 6,737
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2018, 07:40:37 pm »
 Bryce,   remember the sapwood thinning  debate. 

Offline Taxus brevifolia

  • Member
  • Posts: 304
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2018, 08:17:00 am »
I think on this one I'll probably end up chasing down a sapwood ring

Offline Bryce

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 3,125
  • Pacific Ghost Longbows
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2018, 04:16:58 pm »
Bryce,   remember the sapwood thinning  debate.
How could I forget it was hilarious. Even still. Not much.
I’ve done sapling yew bows where there is sapwood on the sides of the belly. They never really shoot that great...

Great back to chasing rings on yew again SMH
Clatskanie, Oregon

Offline PatM

  • Member
  • Posts: 6,737
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #11 on: April 27, 2018, 04:54:33 pm »
Ishi's best bow was only yew heartwood backed with rawhide.

Offline Bryce

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 3,125
  • Pacific Ghost Longbows
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2018, 05:01:24 pm »
Ishi's best bow was only yew heartwood backed with rawhide.


I’m not sure what your point is?
Clatskanie, Oregon

Offline PatM

  • Member
  • Posts: 6,737
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2018, 06:50:28 pm »
Apparently reducing yew sapwood is a good thing if you  need to access the good stuff.  That's  all people are trying to do.

Offline Bryce

  • Global Moderator
  • Member
  • Posts: 3,125
  • Pacific Ghost Longbows
Re: There's definitely a good bow in this
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2018, 08:14:03 pm »
Sure....??? Not making much sense there pat. I’m talking about the stave in the picture. Nobody said anything about heartwood bows or whatever. If you look at that stave it’s 2/3rds sapwood which is garbage when it comes to compression. Yeah he can take the sapwood down but then that all around less wood to work with. Being 1/3rd heartwood there is gonna be more that usual amount a string follow Bc the proportions are off.
Now, that being said, yeah it’ll make a bow. Now compared to a bow with the proper ratios and dimension they’re going to be entirely different shooting bows performance wise. Granted it’s a good stave to learn on.

If it where mine I would definitely decrown and try and make it as narrow as it would let me.
Clatskanie, Oregon