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Bows / Re: Very first stave attempt...
« Last post by Jake Spoon on May 05, 2024, 11:31:53 pm »
Pat B -- Those are very encouraging pictures!
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Bows / Re: Very first stave attempt...
« Last post by Jake Spoon on May 05, 2024, 11:31:00 pm »
Today I filled the cracks with superglue and made some more progress chasing the ring. I almost finished, except for working around the knots and cleaning up some of the early wood.

I wasn't exactly sure how to tackle the knots in the best way. I was reading about it and I watched Clay Hayes's video where he left some wood over the knots and returned to remove it later. I have been doing that here.

TimBo: the side is about 2 inches thick where that crack is.
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Around the Campfire / Post Tenn.Classic pics here
« Last post by Pat B on May 05, 2024, 08:18:26 pm »
Post them if you got them.
 Unfortunately I was unable to go. A good friend in Savannah passed away last week so I headed east to Savannah instead of west to Twin Oaks. I'm jonesing so I need to look at pics of the friends, fun and food.
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Bows / Re: Wonky dead standing Osage
« Last post by Hamish on May 05, 2024, 06:56:43 pm »
These are tough ones, and I believe you have done an excellent job tackling a tricky problem stave. Some people try to tiller them so the look like a conventional bow at full draw. They look "proper" but one limb ends up doing most of the work, and don't usually have good cast.A stave like this needs to look "wrong" in most people's eyes to get the best out of it.

Curious to know your reasoning for not cranking it even with heat? Did you just want a massive challenge, to see if you could do it justice?

I have made a few bows like that, earlier in my bowyering life, (before I knew anything about heat bending) and confess it is a much more difficult way to make a bow.
I didn't have a digital camera in the mid 90's, so I used to make detailed drawings and notes, so I kept a record of what the stave looked like before working on it. Then I'd make a drawing of what I thought should be the unique shape for that particular stave, to try and get the limbs to work evenly. If I hadn't done that, I probably would have stuffed them up, due to confusion, especially if I had a break and need to come back to it a few weeks later.
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Bows / Re: Very first stave attempt...
« Last post by Pat B on May 05, 2024, 04:53:34 pm »
Those drying cracks(checks ) shouldn't be a problem, just fill them with superglue and keep going.



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Bows / Re: Very first stave attempt...
« Last post by TimBo on May 05, 2024, 03:41:22 pm »
How thick is the side there?  It looks like it might have a pie shaped top back to belly profile still, in which case you will need to flatten the sides a bit, so you may end up getting closer to the crack.
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Bows / Re: Very first stave attempt...
« Last post by bjrogg on May 05, 2024, 01:06:15 pm »
I agree with Bjrogg about #2. I chased a ring on a 62” Osage stave today that is thin ringed and I find it easiest to chase a ring with a draw knife for 4” to 6” then remove any residual early wood with a scraper, then do another 4”to 6”.


That’s exactly how I do it. Always cleaning up with scraper so I don’t get lost.

Bjrogg
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Bows / Re: Very first stave attempt...
« Last post by bentstick54 on May 04, 2024, 11:37:00 pm »
I agree with Bjrogg about #2. I chased a ring on a 62” Osage stave today that is thin ringed and I find it easiest to chase a ring with a draw knife for 4” to 6” then remove any residual early wood with a scraper, then do another 4”to 6”.
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Bows / Re: Very first stave attempt...
« Last post by bjrogg on May 04, 2024, 09:00:22 pm »
I agree with everything bentstick said.

#1 fill the cracks with thin superglue from every angle. I have several like that. One even runs off edge through handle.

#2 I would suggest you just plain get in the habit of cleaning up the early good with scraper as you go. It really helps to keep everything less confusing. It also looks so much cleaner and smoother if you don’t back it.

#3 if you succeed chasing a ring. No need to back Osage. However I will leave that up to you.

I sure wish we could post larger pictures.

Bjrogg
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Bows / Re: Very first stave attempt...
« Last post by bentstick54 on May 04, 2024, 06:42:29 pm »
I would use a cabinet scraper and remove the residual wood. If you don’t have a cabinet scraper, a pocket knife or something similar will work.
As far as the crack is concerned, as long as it runs with the grain, and does not get to close to the edge, it will be fine. I’ve made multiple bows with similar cracks and have had no issues.  I fill them with thin super glue until they won’t absorb anymore, and then tiller from there.
If you can get a good back chased there’s no need on Osage to back with rawhide. You gain nothing in performance and are just adding needless weight to the back of the bow, which robs cast. I would only use rawhide as a preventative in the case of a questionable back.
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