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Bows / Re: Osage with Montana rattlesnake skins
« Last post by wooddamon1 on July 10, 2024, 04:41:16 pm »
Beautiful work!
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Bows / Re: Staining Osage
« Last post by TimBo on July 10, 2024, 03:53:38 pm »
On this one, I was feeling very lazy and just smeared walnut hulls on the back.  The grip is walnut bark, which looks better than it feels unfortunately...I took it off after shooting the bow for a while.
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Bows / Re: Staining Osage
« Last post by TimBo on July 10, 2024, 03:52:10 pm »
I have used homemade walnut stain.  You can also use aniline dye.
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Bows / Staining Osage
« Last post by Muskyman on July 10, 2024, 03:26:48 pm »
I know it will darken over time but anyone ever stain their Osage bows?
Iíve got some walnut stain I made last year thatís not real dark.

Anyone?  What did you use?
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Around the Campfire / Re: Life on the Farm
« Last post by bjrogg on July 10, 2024, 03:02:14 pm »
We did get some wheat off . Not the greatest conditions for combining, but extremely good quality wheat.

Itís raining now. Not good timing for the wheat. Itís so hard on the nerves to have this beautiful crop of wheat ready to harvest and itís getting rained on. Hopefully the quality doesnít deteriorate too bad.

Donít have many pictures but hereís a couple

Bjrogg
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Around the Campfire / Re: Life on the Farm
« Last post by bjrogg on July 10, 2024, 02:56:06 pm »
Happy belated 4th to you to Bob.

You certainly are invited to join us at the beach if you get this way. Maybe we can go for a canoe ride.

Me to WB I really find the whole process very interesting. Iím sure I will learn a ton on this project

Bjrogg

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Around the Campfire / Re: Life on the Farm
« Last post by bjrogg on July 10, 2024, 02:47:53 pm »
It was a good time Pappy. Hope to get away to Elm Hall for a day or night if I can. Probably just a drive by visit. Fair week for the grandkids and they have lots of animals. Love to share a bonfire at the beach if you can make it this way.

Pat Iím looking forward to seeing what I can do with my canoe too. I can see it in my head but itís got a long way to go

The frame is going to be split from white cedar and I think thatís my next project. Hopefully wheat harvest doesnít drag on and I get a chance to split some cedar. I need enough for inner frame, outer frame, top rail, sheathing to go between the bark a d the ribs and the ribs

Should get good at splitting cedar by the time Iím done.

Bjrogg
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Around the Campfire / Re: Life on the Farm
« Last post by WhistlingBadger on July 10, 2024, 11:53:03 am »
Looking forward to seeing what you make of those, Brian.
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Bows / Re: How far, how fast?
« Last post by sleek on July 10, 2024, 12:00:48 am »
Doh!  Ive now read the thread.  I'm still curious if you can reverse-engineer the formula and give me the dimensions I should use.

That said...

Osage Orange recurve with no other reflex
63" total length; 62" n2n
ten inch stiff handle with grip section 1 1/4 " up from center to 2 3/4 below center and 3" fades
 
(the following dimensions are my best attempt to keep the same proportions from the TBB vol 1 67" osage flat bow that had a 4" grip and 3" fades but grip was laid out = at 2" above and 2" below center...ie = limb lengths...but applying the dimensions equally to a 63" bow with a shorter bottom limb than top limb)

Bottom limb: Fade to beginning of taper = 10 3/4" at 1.5" wide.  Beginning of taper to tip = 14 7/8" tapering evenly from 1.5" to 1/2" tip width with nocks 1/2" from tip.  Stiff tip from from 8 1/4 from tip; Recurve starting at 7 1/4 from tip

Top limb:  Fade to beginning of taper = 11 1/2" at 1.5" wide.  Beginning of taper to tip = 15 3/4" tapering evenly from 1.5" to 1/2" tip width with nocks 1/2" from tip.  Stiff tip from 8 1/2" from tip; recurve starting at 7 1/2" from tip.

These are the rough dimensions of a bow I have laid out for my son's bow.  Stave is limiting me to 1.5" wide max.  I have not yet reduced the tips or cut the handle.  I chose to keep the limbs'  max width lengths and taper lengths proportional to each other since the top limb is longer than the bottom...I figured the fact that the lower limb is shorter will result in it being stronger if the proportions are  the same relative to the top limb.  This might be flawed thinking, but I cannot find anything definitive for upper vs lower limb layout dimensions on bows with shorter bottom limbs in the books I have read.  Please point me to this info if you know where it resides.  Keeping proportional makes sense to my brain, but doing percentages with fractions warped my brain...so I got as close as I could before retiring for the evening to a Whiskey neat...or three.

Anyhoo...I hope you can give me my max draw weight possible without this bow taking set from the dimensions I've listed.  If you need anything more, let me know.  Thanks a ridiculous heap for being willing to do this for us.

How wide is it 8.5 from the tip?
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Bows / Re: How far, how fast?
« Last post by sleek on July 09, 2024, 11:51:09 pm »
Doh!  Ive now read the thread.  I'm still curious if you can reverse-engineer the formula and give me the dimensions I should use.

That said...

Osage Orange recurve with no other reflex
63" total length; 62" n2n
ten inch stiff handle with grip section 1 1/4 " up from center to 2 3/4 below center and 3" fades
 
(the following dimensions are my best attempt to keep the same proportions from the TBB vol 1 67" osage flat bow that had a 4" grip and 3" fades but grip was laid out = at 2" above and 2" below center...ie = limb lengths...but applying the dimensions equally to a 63" bow with a shorter bottom limb than top limb)

Bottom limb: Fade to beginning of taper = 10 3/4" at 1.5" wide.  Beginning of taper to tip = 14 7/8" tapering evenly from 1.5" to 1/2" tip width with nocks 1/2" from tip.  Stiff tip from from 8 1/4 from tip; Recurve starting at 7 1/4 from tip

Top limb:  Fade to beginning of taper = 11 1/2" at 1.5" wide.  Beginning of taper to tip = 15 3/4" tapering evenly from 1.5" to 1/2" tip width with nocks 1/2" from tip.  Stiff tip from 8 1/2" from tip; recurve starting at 7 1/2" from tip.

These are the rough dimensions of a bow I have laid out for my son's bow.  Stave is limiting me to 1.5" wide max.  I have not yet reduced the tips or cut the handle.  I chose to keep the limbs'  max width lengths and taper lengths proportional to each other since the top limb is longer than the bottom...I figured the fact that the lower limb is shorter will result in it being stronger if the proportions are  the same relative to the top limb.  This might be flawed thinking, but I cannot find anything definitive for upper vs lower limb layout dimensions on bows with shorter bottom limbs in the books I have read.  Please point me to this info if you know where it resides.  Keeping proportional makes sense to my brain, but doing percentages with fractions warped my brain...so I got as close as I could before retiring for the evening to a Whiskey neat...or three.

Anyhoo...I hope you can give me my max draw weight possible without this bow taking set from the dimensions I've listed.  If you need anything more, let me know.  Thanks a ridiculous heap for being willing to do this for us.

I dont mind, just give me a little time to run through your post and pick the info I need. But I want to emphasize, I'm looking for bows that have already been built, their dimensions  and their set. I have already worked out the formula one way to design the bow, now I'm trying to work it backwards with crowd help, to prove it before it advertise it as completed and effective.

Any type wood self bow, any set amount, and draw weight   I'm interested in the stats please. Once I have this process proofed  I want to make an app for your cell phone so the process can be used by everyone.
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